Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Should have a better engine than the FRS1 (same as the Gr7) which should net some improvements like:

  • More thrust (so better acceleration and top speed)
  • Better engine temp management

But the rest of the FM should be the same. Unless they are buffing the Sea Harrier FM, though Im not aware of any issues with it.

that extra thrust is sorely missed on the ones in game, they fall out of the sky in half a turn. i couldnt keep playing them as all i would face were f5s which i couldnt even attempt to make over shoot and would simply pull up causing me to become a lump of iron unable to turn. hopefully with the extra thrust itll become something usable at the br its going to be sat at.

Hi Smin, is there any news regarding improvements to the F.3s flight model?

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I have a feeling I know what the answer is going to be lol

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The F.3 late should start with Aim9M and get ASRAAM as an upgrade.

I’ve made a thread for improving the stock grind for the F3 AOP. Probably wont change anything, but worth a try

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Could do with something like this for the SHar FA.2.

Start with 2Ms, unlocking 4 before AMRAAM.

2Ls on anything at 12.3 and above is gonna be a nightmare.

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Yeah, im gunna do a dev forum thread for the FA2 as well I think (just done one for the F3 late)

It has a rather wierd layout and stock grind.

Though I think they need to overhaul all nations. Su-27 gets R-73s stock and everyone else gets Aim-9Ls

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ASRAAM’s have already been denied by Smin.

Yeah. Damn, even really nerfed ASRAAM would have been fun to have. Give us a slight edge without being OP.

But I guess thats what the “late” is for instead of “AOP/FSP” as @galaxygms suggested above. Maybe we’ll get future upgrades like Aim-120C5s for the F3 “late”

I think what we really should be asking for is Tornado F.3 late to be given 120C5 and moved up to 13.0
We’ve already seen that aircraft can be given certain missiles such as the PL-12 on the J-8F. 120 C5 is in the files and I think we could argue the tornado would be a get aircraft for it to first appear on. Would that be a more likely possibility @Smin1080p?

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Tornado GR1 seems to be receiving a nerf with this coming update too since thermals are being removed from the PGMs on it.

Now you will only be able to carry three PGMs since you’ll need the targeting pod for thermals.

Understandably so

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Dont kow if anyone has said or mentioned this yet but the tornado F3 Late has much bigger drop tanks, 495 Gallon ones.

(Also first forum post after lurking for years)

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In this case I believe the weapons set(spades) is competitive enough to work as an effective missile bus unlike when the f.3 dropped last year. The main issue is still the gimped FM.

It’s not like we’re asking for a UFO anyway it’s literally just 1-2 gs man. I get spaghetti code limits, but instead of re working the games core code why can’t the F.3 just have the slats as auto? Hell the su-17 and mig 23 have auto sweep which they never had irl.

Serious copium this patch

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That was technically a bug. And I always just run 3x PGM-2000s and Tpod anyway. I find it a lot easier. Though its a shame Tornado IDSs arent getting ANY TLC this update, not even a BR drop

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Good spot. Hmm… I hope the Gr1 and F3 get those too. Would be handy.

And welcome

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4x PGM was always better since the thermal resolution was the same. Not going to be quite the same only having three.

Hmm… its a good idea. Id not say no to that. Except the stock grind is going to be even worse :D

It’s worth noting with the FM that the instantaneous turn is under-performing, but the sustained turn is overperforming. So fixing it won’ be a straight buff, but obviously it should still be done.

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