Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

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I’m guessing the way the new 12.3 MiG-29G has been handled as a second aircraft in the German tree after the 12.0 MiG-29 in order to merely accommodate R-73, is a pretty strong indication that an ASRAAM+AMRAAM capable Tornado F.3 CSP would be a separate aircraft from the AIM-9L+Skyflash Tornado F.3?

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First of all yes, second of all if we get csp we are getting a handicap in a handicap, as csp does not have midcourse guidence for amraam (datalink in a vague answear) aop got them. I hope if we get a new F3 it will be fsp, the last version of f3

Is there any news for the Tornado Gr1 mass of missing features?

Radar, CMs, ECMs, modified rails, Loadout options, etc?

Those are mechanics not even added in the game.

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A CM overhaul was hinted at to be in the works by Smin earlier in the year

(Couldnt find this)

We’ve had some datamined loadout icons, one of which looks like ECM

And both would make sense to come before or with Fox 3 that is likely now coming in Dec. Work out the bugs and get them working right now, would kinda make sense.

Im sure some modified 9Ls with extra launch range among other features wouldnt be that big of stretch to get.

CM I can understand but ECM? Some loadout icon mean it is coming? It obviously isn’t coming this update, I doubt a big of a feature would be showed early.

fair enough

I think it would be a logical counter for Fox 3. But Yeah, I doubt it would be added this late into the patch cycle now. But still worth an ask. But yeah getting our missing 1200 chaff would be a massive buff

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The tornado (both variants, but especially GR.1) appear to be too slow? Is there any source for the GR.1 struggling to pass 700kts - https://youtu.be/LMtBHPspob4?t=866 here (timestamped) you can see a test pilot talking about himself taking a GR.1 to 802 @ 2000ft.

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I thinks it’s very much loadout dependent

Still doesn’t appear to approach 800kts when clean.

Depends on external stores, a clean GR1 will have no issue getting up to 700kts.

Yes, but what I stated was that it should be doing 800+ (the flight manual stated not to exceed 800 - in the video his exact words are “I won’t admit to exceeding 800”)

Without AB? Also what fuel load you got?

With AB… it won’t hit 700 without AB because you need it to exceed mach. Minimum fuel.

800kts

Isn’t that F3?

This is an F.3. I have seen other pilots claim approaching or passing 850 and 900 (which the F.3 in game won’t even approach) - I have seen the exact words “The fastest NATO Fighter @ LL”

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At sea level? Without damage I doubt it.

Whether they were damaged i’m not sure, but it was claimed that it would not out-accelerate an F-16, but outrun it at sea level.