Hello, since the P-47M has returned for a short time, I wanted to bring the topic of engine and FM state of this aircraft and it that it should be either buffed or lowered in br as it is not a 5.7 worthy aircraft.
Any opinion on this is welcome.
Subsequently, I have created a bugreport Community Bug Reporting System that calls into question of the current state of this aircraft and the game as a whole.
Also see this br change suggestion made by @Nostalgistic on this April’s br change suggestion thread (Updated Planned Battle Rating Changes (April 2026) - #191 by Nostalgistic). It also connects to the argument I want to have. Go support him also, he makes wonderful and dedicated content that I think greatly reflects and will benefit the community.
Would appreciate if feedback is provided and will gladly refine my argument accordingly.
Also would be much appreciated if this garners more support and attention through this thread.
Thank you!
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You might think about the flap nerf for all P-47s - the flaps were extremely effective whilst fighting enemy fighters. I stopped playing P-47s completely…
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Uptier A6M5 and downtier P47M?
Now P47M is pretty close to P47D28/30, no idea how Gaijin standardised the BR, the weight might be the most important factor for some aircraft.
Hello, I was doing some additional readings and found the following information:
“A decision was made in May 1944 to have all fighter units supplied with this fuel (150 Octane) no later than 1 June.”; “At the time the 150 grade fuel was first used all three fighter types (P-38J, P-51B, and P-47D) listed above were in operational use by this Air Force … and as of approximately 1 November only one P-47 group remained in this Air Force. (Probably pointing to the 56th Fighter group, 8th Air Force)” [Source: HEAD QUARTERS EIGHTH AIR FORCE Technical Operations APO 634/ 463.7 memorandum, 4 April 1945 (i.e. First picture)]
“The 8th Air Force ran WER power checks on one alrplane for 20 hours and then released it for WER operation at 76” Hg. (The authorized limit is 72" Hg.)" [Source: P-47M Engine Failues in the United Kingdom, 20 March 1945 (i.e. Second picture)]
The former passage supports continuous and prolonged use of the 150 Octane fuel by the 8th Air Force and subsequently 56th Fighter group. This is futher supported by the later source mentioning the P-47M’s within the 8th airforce and how they used such aircrafts.
The later passage indicates that the P-47M was able to run at 76" Hg, although this is above the authorized limit of 72" Hg as stated above by the manufacturer, I think this sould be an additional feature, as a “true ability to the absolute maximum capabilty of the engine (i.e. above 110% WEP, or to put the 110% WEP at 76” Hg and lower WEP at 72" Hg)", a setting for a limited ability to push the engine to its absolute limit, although it would destroy the engine if prolongedly used.
I think it would a cool feature in-game to push the engine to such lengths to either pursue or runaway or fight.
Based on rough estimates, this would likely increase the output HP by 100-200hp above the 2800hp.
Any comments or thoughts on this?
Sorry for the NOT-so-easy-to-read paragraph, was excited to see this and think about it.
If you want to see the original sources go see my bug report page please! Thanks!
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/x3TakcDunwS8
Also a side note complaint, but I think the flap lock system currently implemented for all P-47 models is stupid and unnecessary, and should be reverted. but get gaijined I guess Haha 😭
This happened to many planes, and GJN didn’t care about it regarding BRs. For me it’s the A7M2. Although they nerfed the flaps, this was not enough nerf for GJN, they put it to 5.7.
True.
Decompression around it while the P47M stays at it’s BR should be a solution.
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Yes, the flap nerf on those aircraft are stupid and unrealistic. I get that there are certain limitations, but putting them at the same speed is rediculous and breaks the usefulness of the aircraft affected. It SHOULD be reverted immidiately.
I’m not stauchly in position of the lowering of the br of the P-47M, I just want the aircraft to perform accurately and realistically, especially for the engine of the aircraft, as it is THE lightest and most powerful of the Thunderbolts.
I wanted to report an update on the situation regarding this whole fiasco. I have contacted and received a reply from one of the technical moderators:
“Seems based on the responses from the Devs on previous attempts to get this changed, they know higher grade fuel is supported. Its a balance decision. This can’t be changed via report.”
So, to put it simply, this is an actual feature that was in real life, isn’t implimented because of balance decisions by the developers. Which in my humble opinion is asinine. As the highest BR Thunderbolt, it should have all the features that make it the most effective and powerful, or if these changes aren’t an option, which I highly frown at, it should be put down in BR, as it is not worthy nor good enough to go up against other late-war Super Props, like Yak-3U, P-51H, F8F-B.
But would like to hear others thoughts on this matter. Thanks as always.