CCRP outranges Gepards, if they’re dumb enough to stay still after you drop your bomb, which is about 99% of SPAA players.
Then what is the problem with stingers? Dodge the stinger (extremely easy), drop your bomb, and then fly away.
In that case, the A4E outranges all spaa. Correct?
I assume it is because the stinger outranges him. It can effectively be launched before he can drop bombs. At lower brs, he can drop bombs before spaa engage him effectively.
At least that is the only reason i can think of. They not hard to spot and dodge unless you have some overloaded attacker.
Yeaaaaaah no.
Its camera sucks, it only gets two Walleyes, and the Walleyes only track vehicles at very close distance, well within stinger range. It has the same issue with CCRP where if the target moves after you drop, then your bomb just hits the ground where they used to be.
It’s definetly an improvement over CCRP (especially now that it’s on an actually usable airframe), however it’s a 9.3 plane, meaning it still doesn’t solve the issue of 8.7s facing Stingers.
The issue is the F-84F can’t dodge for shit, and it loses shitloads of speed if you so much as THINK about dodging, and the only other 8.7 option is A-4B, and I don’t even needa explain why bullpups go poorly against stingers.
The only planes that have both CCRP, and an airframe that actually has the physical ability to dodge stingers (AV-8C and F-100D) are far higher than they should be. If they were 8.3 or 8.7, then that would solve the issue, but they ain’t.
Just drop from like 10km out.
That could also be an issue. Uptiering planes doesnt always work out well
Its camera is too trash to see enemies from that far out (ESPECALLY a tiny lil Ozelot) and it still doesn’t track the vehicles from that far.
It’s a 7.7 airframe that’s being pulled into 9.0 battles because there’s literally no other usable option.
And? If ccrp outranges the gepard because “they might not move” than point locking 100% outranges.
Is this for an 8.7 lineup?
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When using CCRP, the Gepard is usually firing at you for the entire time you spend setting them as a target, lining up to drop, and the fall time of the bomb itself. In other words, they’re too distracted shooting at a plane to move.
Dropping a Walleye, on the other hand, means they have no target to shoot at, and the Walleye is gonna be falling for a longer amount of time than the entirety of the interaction beteen an F-84F and a Gepard.
Yes, the F-84F is the only option for 8.3, 8.7, and 9.0 lineups.
Skill issue on the spaa’s part is not an argument for saying that the f84f outranges the gepard.
debatable. If you need to use ccrp, than yes, you are correct.
Ok, I’ll put it this way. Without CCRP, you are completely hopeless against a Gepard. Having CCRP allows you to outrange one.
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I wouldnt say completely hopeless. But it would be more difficult.
I would argue that ccrp doesnt allow you to outrange the gepard. Sure it lets you better lob bombs from outside their range. However, those bombs are not going to be effective.
So far they have been very effective. Almost every Gepard I lob a bomb at dies, and the small handful that didn’t was due to a mistake on my end.
It’s 50/50 for me.
I’m able to lock tanks from 10km away in customs, but other times they fail to lock a moving target on a snow map when I’m at most 4Km away.
I think that it’s good that the 8.0-10.0 BR bracket is more biased towards SPAA rather than CAS.
The 3.7-5.7 bracket is biased towards SPAA. New players don’t get the spawn points for planes, and pro players rarely bother with SPAA making SPAA seem worse than it is in statistics.
The 8.7-9.7 bracket is just full on completely OP SPAA, having tons of undertiered SPAA and tons of overtiered planes.
~11.0+ it’s biased towards CAS, and by the time you reach 12.3+, CAS is OP and there’s simply no hope for SPAA.
You still haven’t mentioned a single “WW2 aircraft” that sees the Gepard 1A2 or Ozelot.
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Both E and K variants have a smoke trail that lasts for a long, long while.
I watched DEFYN dodge two in quick succession fired from two different sources in his boat that’s F-117, while pulling only 6-8 Gs.
Early IR missiles pose a threat to afk/stalling planes and helicopter rocket rushers. Type 93’s optical lock can extend it’s range against helicopters in some cases, but in general until you get to Strela those IRs are very tame.
The israeli chapparal with the MIM-72G is smokeless iirc
Was*
Both of the chaparrals have had a bug, for several months, that give it smoke.
Wait what? Really? 😭 Tragic