Ozelot and Gepard 1A2 should be the same BR as other vehicles with Fim-92s

Chaparral just needs its missile’s motor fixed.

It was one of my favorite spaa until that bug.

They already are:
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Also Stormer Air Defense and LAV-AD are 10.0.

With 2x the missiles of the Ozelot and a gun. Or 4x as many missiles as the Gepard 1A2 gets.

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They can because if the couldn’t I wouldn’t complain

Wait, so you’re complaining because AAs can actually touch you ?
This is what handholding earlier ATGM helicopters do to a man.

Strela lacks any kind of radar or thermals, so you should be able to find it and engage first.

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It’s still a missile launcher system that is seeing WW2 planes.

And the LAV has more missiles then the ozelot and Gepard along with a gun and rocket pods to defend itself so it should go up if the others do.

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Throughout all of this, he still hasn’t said exactly which WW2 aircraft are seeing Stingers. And there’s lower BR’d manpads launchers anyway.

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so yeah you are full of a lot of shit.

LAV-AD 10.0 has additionaly stingers, hydra missles, minigun and a thermal, superior then ozelot and gepard 1a2 in every aspect

Sidam 25 with mistrals 9.7 as well, mistrals perform very closely to stingers

stromer ad 10.0 stingers, minigun thermals, like the lav ad superior in every aspect

type 93 9.3 type 91 missle, performs similar to stingers. performs worse cause it doesnt have a radar lower br justified

santal with mistrals 9.3 as well, mistrals perform very closely to stingers, iuts is quite big. lower br justified

machbet 9.3 minigun with stingers, has thermals as well

if you compare them all the ozelot and the gepard 1a2 sit well where they are and you are only hating on those 2 vehicles for the sake of hating them

The fewest stinger systems actualy are above 10.0

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It also has contrast seeker which will increase the range against helicopters in some cases.

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Yes, unless they are flying low enough where the seeker can see the ground and the helicopter at the same time then it won’t work. Even if there’s clear sky behind them…

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You forgot the ZSU-23-4M4, which is identical to the Gepard 1A2 (with actually better missiles) but gets to sit at 9.3 instead.

It has worse missiles and a worse radar, keep in mind that they remove the proximity fuze of those.

It’s because they are German vehicles, it’s why he singles them out.

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The more missiles is irrelevant due to ammo crates, and the fact that it only takes one missile to take down a plane. The Gepard also gets 35mm which are far more powerful than the 25mm on the LAV-AD

It’s because they’re undertiered and are encountered almost every game. The reason I’m not complaining about ZSU-23 4M, Matchbet, or the Italian SPAAs is because I almost never see them ingame.

You’re simply biased.

no they are not, most stinger vehicles are below your suggested br. additionaly how many encounter of them is completly irrelevant to their br. something something major nation vs minor nation with more players
Additionaly the LAV ad has a way higher br because of the stronger tank destroyer capabilties trough the hyrda missles and the thermals, those beat the gepards 35mm cannons

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Uhh, yes Ozy and Geppy are infact the most common. I don’t even remember the last time I’ve seen a Matchbet or the Italian SPAA on the enemy team

It’s not as reloading from ammo crates takes a long while.

Having more ammo on those early IR slingers is always a good thing as they can be dodged easily and can often produce unsatisfactory results, such as getting “Hits”.

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Taken as there’s on average ~2-3 plane (per team) a game at that BR, and often times none if it’s a steamroll, I can assure you ammo is not an issue.

I’ve gone many games in Imp.Chapparal destroying all of 1-3 enemy planes that spawned throughout the entire match, never even needing to reload.

If you play smart (hard for an SPAA player I know) and only launch at a plane that isn’t actively scanning for stingers i.e a plane that’s already made passes over the battlefield and is confident there’s no SPAA, then dodging isn’t an issue.

@Pangolin_Fan i am still waiting on an explanation how 10.0 would make them consistent to the other stinger users

when those with less capability already are lower br and those with higher capability like lav-ad and stormer ad are higher br

You are just claiming stuff without proving anything

Would be fine if aircraft didn’t often take two-three hits to get severe damage.

People don’t need to actively scan in order to notice that big plume of smoke and just barrel roll.