Italy has sidam mistral… at 2 br steps higher than anything comparable to it… and worse than any of them…
Yeah italian spaa sucks
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Which is exactly why I am proposing the APSDS round gets removed and the OTO put down to 10.3.
Implement the 3 round APFSDS drum that is the actual configuration. Allow people to load as much APFSDS they want into the bulk ammo storage.
Drop it to 10.7/10.3, see how it performs and go from there.
This would limit it to 3 APFSDS before needing to restock the secondary drums. I dont see how this will put it at much of an edge over the Lvkv9040C and the 2S38 other than penetration as you would need to wait the long restock time to refill the 3 round APFSDS drum.
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Infinite APFSDS+reduction to 10.7 is the bare minimum. It is not because it has been nerfed but everyone around it gets better. As of an missile AA, either SL-ASPIDE, Centauro ADATS, or RO/HU Osa-AKM.
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Well what they could do is make the reload around 6-8 seconds and limit the amount of drums you can take in so it can be 10.3 cause Italy needs a good SPAA and not so much a vehicle with a higher penetrating auto cannon cause Italy already has the VCC-80/30 and the KF41 to fill in those jobs.
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The reload will be whatever the replanisment will be.
And the APFSDS drum kinda limits itself. You get 3 rounds, and then a long replanisment. With that limitation i see no reason to emplace the arbitrary limitation on how many rounds you can carry.
The only arbitrary limitation is that you can only load APFSDS into the dedicated 3 round drum.
The drum seen in this image.
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So the drum is separate from the auto by being placed on the right side of the gun?
Yup, its there for the very rare chance that the OTO actually had to deal with ground vehicles
Interesting. I don’t understand why gajin didn’t just add that. Plus right now with the ammo transfer speed it would be pretty balanced in 10.0-10.7 area.
It would mean adding a new mechanic. Easier to just bump a vehicle to irrelevancy and apply the mechanic they used for the gepard. Which have a similar system for alternate belts in place
It doesn’t belong to top tier. 10.0 or around it, not 12.0
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Indeed. 2S6 now is way too much better than the OTO and still has lower BR, and the only reason of keeping OTO such rediculous BR is it can carry up to 11 apfsds rounds, which is basically non-sense because we already have 2S38 in 10.0 now.
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This is just a nonsense proposition, the OTOMATIC was designed, built and tested with APFSDS shells. It could be lowered to BR 10.7 as it is, but for GJ to assign BR considering the statistics, it will never happen.
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Well the OTO is supposed to have 3 round drums for the APSDS rounds but Gajin just gave the OTO the same mechanics as the Gepard which makes it overpowered. The reason I say this is its going to be ages before Gajin fixes this and Italy should be able to get a decent SPAA in 10.3 range. Having APSDS rounds shouldn’t be the main priority of the OTO cause killing tanks isn’t its main job.
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It doesn’t make sense, because if you nerf it and give it BR 10.3 nothing changes because even at that BR there are planes and helicopters with AGM and GBU that can easily stay out of reach of the OTOMATIC.
It’s a game not real life, you have to stay in the spawn the whole game because you don’t have APFSDS to defend yourself and then be destroyed by AGM or GBU launched from 8/10km, this would be the result of this stupid change that you want.
Um no, the OTO has a very long range due to it having roland radar. GBUs can kill almost any SPAA in the game right now, even the pantsir. The only reason its worse in its current BR is cause most of the jets have GBUs but in 10.3 only a select few of aircraft get access to GBUs.
And you’re acting like it isn’t any different in 11.3. Most of the vehicles you cant even pen due to the insane armor they have. Also you should play smart to avoid getting hit by a AGM, go into the trees or behind hills cause most of the time the OTO detects a helicopter before they even find you. Also the stock round isn’t even that bad, I have killed a few tanks using it or even with the heat rounds.
I absolutely agreed should go down to 10.3 or 10.7
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Right now there are only a few BR 10.3 aircraft that can carry GBU or fire and forget AGM, but as time goes on more will be added, so the situation would not change. Then let me tell you destroying tanks with the OTOMATIC is a lot of fun.
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Well that’s a issue cause Italy needs SPAA cause just how little there are right now. There’s plenty of vehicles that could be added that are around the same thing but they are actually for fighting tanks.
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