Give everyone AIM120As or MICAs or AAM4s. Gaijin is giving everyone F16s and F15s or MiG29s. Any national flavor or uniqueness is long gone.
cuz you are only thinking on yourself, think what happens, would you rather go grind F15C from America or F15J MSIP from japan if they had the exact same weaponry and capacities, for the sakes of you not suffering you are removing a weapon that was characteristic and the main weapon that plane was using, pretty selfish in my opinion, what they should do its let america use the 6 AMRAAMS it should be able to carry meanwhile japan has always been limited to 4 AAM-4’s due to their size and weight
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Fake stats and performance like a variety of things in game including but not limited to the Yak 141 and M82 rounds
this was absolutely hated by a lot of japanese mains because there were much better options, and we hope it gets replaced by the thai F16 in the nearby future
The game is balanced to the extent that all nations can receive a new toy, you have to accept that some nations are better than the US in the isolated environment of war thunder, the AAM-3 and 4 are both heavily nerfed from their real life specs and still wallop any AMRAAM model up until the C-5 and C-7, so inherently the very few japan players at top tier can enjoy a versatile and capable missile instead of being cucked with another american BVR missile for their top tier jets.
Gaijin has done the right thing, and we have seen this with the magic 2, in choosing domestic weaponry which they can expand upon later down the line.
I don’t remember, what were they
as i said that’s just selfish, every missiles has its cons and pro’s and people have to deal with it, america should be able to carry a lot more missiles than any other country except russia, but russia performs bad at longer ranges, AAM-4 has more range but, loses energy at longer ranges unlike AIM-120 and MICA-EM performs horribly at longer ranges and has barely any range and performs amazing at close ranges, that’s how it goes, and if its for the sake of you not wanting to suffer and want to make it a copy paste all across trees that removes one of the main factors on the update tbh
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Mainly because they were receiving a fabricated aircraft, which A. gives other players a point to mock them for and B. makes it very hard to model and balance accurately since it simply didn’t exist outside of that brochure
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Give me source of the 2000s jet being with 90s jets
It doesn’t matter if they get a slightly better missile then you (in the dev it is actually worse)
I meant the options
there was a lot of discussion on the topic because even japan mains werent really liking the addition of a fake F16 when stuff like very early prototype of the F-2 could’ve been added wich has the normal F16 radar, or even other country options
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He is simply irked at the fact that he is an american main, objectively one of the worst countries to main for air due to it’s lack of interesting and dynamic additions, the MSIP coming to game was MLU’d in 2005, putting it in the ballpark of the good eurocanard fighters, which will utterly annihilate all american competition in and out of the merge
How am I only thinking of myself? I’m not asking for foreign vehicles. I’m not asking for vastly superior weapons. I’m saying if Japan can get the AAM4, there’s no valid argument against the AIM120C, which is comparable to the AAM4 in terms of performance and service date.
The F15 could carry 6 or 8 or whatever AIM120s but it doesn’t in game. Limiting a vehicle based off performance that the game doesn’t allow makes no sense.
isnt the F-2 just better than every F-16 in game regardless if it has the same radar?
japan could’ve gotten numerous options from thailand wich would add something similar to the different versions of the F16 the US has being the thailand’s F16 ADF/OCU/MLU wich are possible additions that are more reallistic
TL:DR, USA is meta irl but the game is made poorly and doesn’t reflect that (not saying they should be superior to anybody but it’s a bit silly when the F-15 is gonna probably end up in this funny ass state where it’s not gonna live up to its IRL performance due to the game not having IRL variables)
you would have to take a look at the early prototype, the weaponry would’ve been the same, no AIM9M, 6 AIM-9L and 2 AIM-7, but with a stronger motor and slightly beter turn rate, the rest would’ve been the same
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I’d argue the early F-2 variants compete with the block 70 and Sufa (F-16I) in terms of avionics but they have very capable AESA radars from a relatively early date in production so it begs the question of when they should come.
Ok so yeah a way better jet by far. You just told me that not only does it have more missiles than the F-16ADF that it also dogfights better and doesn’t really have downsides to it.
I guess I can finally speak up again. So, here we go:
First of all, rather than the F-16AJ, most wanted the F-2, or rather the XF-2, specifically fitted with an AN/APG-68(V)5 radar Japan had bought for testing on the XF-2. So naturally, seeing just an F-16 was disappointing.
But then again, at least it was a unique model, with various modifications previously tested on a YF-16A testbed, focused on compatibility with 4-8 Sparrow missiles, two of which on distinctive landing gear hardpoints. However what we got was not even the F-16AJ, it was simply an F-16A Block 10 with ADF Sparrow mounts. And on top of that the GBU-8 TV guided bombs, specifically advertised with the F-16AJ were removed, despite being on the US version of the very same airframe.
So essentially you had two groups, those that hated the F-16AJ by itself, and those that hated what Gaijin did to it. You’d probably need to search for quite a while to find someone that is fully contempt with it.
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