Gaining seperation to put yourself in advantage while boring to the chaser, is sometime the only way.
Literally this^. Using your planes strengths against the opponents weaknesses. Zero is too slow to catch up so extend enough until its in your favour.
Its just stupid to play into the opponents strength.
Late game 1v1 dogfights is where the skill and knowledges comes out. A weaker plane flown well can beat a better plane flown poorly.
No, for multiple reasons:
In ASB I will hide and do whatever I can to get first-shot and avoid getting shot back at (unless wanting to practice evasive flying). Clouds, treetops, sun, altitude. This is somewhat complicated by teams that don’t communicate and copy-paste vehicles making IFF harder than need be.
I don’t use airfields AAA.
Also, this very logic is why I got annoyed at ARB props.
Want to fly a plane whose primary strength is straight-line speed and shallow climbing, excellent diving and combat endurance? In other words: the capability to dictate the engagement.
You’re SOL, you must fly like a WW1 biplane into a furball in the middle and turnfight everything. Also half your team strapped bombs to their amazing planes and are lawmowing into ground targets and bases then try to dogfight zeros.
Also to this i assume you are referring to bombers. If a bomber didnt go straight to base at the start of the match and he side climbed to ensure survival for a bit longer they have atleast half a brain. They did everything they could to try an earn points its not their fault the team died and bases take forever to spawn.
They cant come down and fight and if they go to high they get contrails to give them away.
But someone always has to blind hunt them and chase them down.
If you message in chat and let them bomb 90% of the time they will just hand you the kill once out of bombs and its mutually benifically for all parties.
There is nothing really to cope about that much.
You are the last guy and you are hiding somewhere - you get spoted by blindhunt or avenger to end the battle quickly.
Orders stay as they were, literally nobody complained about them, aside from guys who actually want to troll with running away
Kinda contradictory
Using graphics settings to gain unfair advantages of player locations = Bad
Using order to highlight one players exact location which was previously unknown for 2 minutes = Good
He who shoots first wins.
Really not
Using something in game to gain an unfair advantage so badly so that we need to “force” players to stop using it cause its unfair.
Whats the problem they can see you before you can see them, trying to flank but cant hmmmmmmm
Id be more okay with blind hunt/avenger if they reduced the time down from 2 mins to a minute or less. No one is using it for the silver lions anyway.
2mins is 8% of a full games match time and 13% of a 15 minute game or 20% of a 10 minute game. Its too long to be spotted
You would see them, if you wouldn’t hide in map corner
It’s not that complicated
Noone here is saying we dont like them becuase we are hiding. We dont like them because we want to fight but as much on our own terms as possible, since blind hunt against you means you are 1vsX players.
You could see further in ground if you just lowered your settings aswell, just deal with it. Its part of the game.
You already fought them, you fumbled, didn’t killed them, didn’t covered teammates and you ended up last one against multiple enemies.
Demanding now to “fight on your own terms” is simply throwing a tantrum, and running and hiding is just poor behaviour.
Thats why bindhund/avenger is a good thing
What we really need is to force graphic settings to high
Isnt throwing a tantrum?
We literally want the same thing a level playing field.
It isn’t.
And do not offtop, as this i not connected to this topic
We literally do not
I advise you look up advice for pilots in the pacific theatre.
Did you encounter a zero in your wildcat/hellcat?
Disengage, run away and notify your wingmen to aid you.
Ideally, you lure the zero into a trap by your wingmen.
Worst case, your superior dive and top speed lets you lose them so you can re-engage on your terms later.
Under no circumstances stay and dogfight.
Were these pacific wildcat pilots throwing a tantrum?
I advise you to stick to the game and not confuse it with real events or simulators, as this game is not a simulation at all
We’re talking about air realistic, not arcade.
And there’s also a whole mode called “air simulator.”
Speaking of which, recently I’ve had a fight in “air simulator” in my A6M2 vs a P-51C-10.
By all rights, I should have won as I’m a superior turnfighter.
However, it was cloudy.
What did the P-51-C10 do? Whenever I got my guns on them, he dove into the clouds to lose me, disappear and come back from an altitude advantage.
Was the P-51-C10 throwing a tantrum?
Was the Bf109K4 throwing a tantrum against my P-51-D-5 when we had a simular situation - I get guns on him, he dives into a cloud to reset the fight to his advantage?
You cannot do these tricks in air RB because the blind hunt order makes it impossible to use cover and distance and sun to reset a fight to your advantage.
These tricks are the bread and butter of air combat.
Also real life:
Example of using stealth to get an easy shot (sit in enemy plane’s blindspot after sneaking through clouds to avoid having to make a difficult deflection shot)
Example of using stealth to disengage from a fight you cannot win.
Sauce: Robert L Shaw fighter combat tactics and maneuvering.
Man, that Bf109 pilot sure throw one hell of a tantrum hiding and not staying like a man!
And damn, Major Godfrey was a coward! He relied on stealth to get the kill rather than a real man! What a shame he brought onto the USAF not trying to dogfight a Bf109 in a P-47!
Yes, still applies, it is realistic only from name
And realistic expects realistic fighter tactics to be used.
But I guess Major Godfrey was a coward and that unknown bf109 who used clouds to survive was throwing one hell of a childish tantrum.
And let’s forget about Thach and his weaving and wildcat pilots holding the line in the pacific…
We must all fly like WW1/interwar biplanes and spin around each other taking shots like real men with no heed or consideration of how different aircraft require different conditions to win.
air realistic is not realistic at all.
Just stop trying to legitimize toxic behaviour by citing real life events.
Orders stay as they are counter for toxic players, like you, who try to troll and want to waste everyone time
