3x-10x zoom for the M1A2 vs 4x-12x zoom for the BVM. SEPs are a bit of an improvement with 3x-13x zoom.
The BVM was incredibly dominant against these vehicles back in the day, which should be enough to not have them at the same BR, especially not until they also model the new detailed modules for the BVM as well.
Same. Gotta love enjoying my 105 armed tanks and suddenly facing an M1A1 and T-80UM-2.
Always get mixed up in the zooms.
The issue ive got with top tier for the big 3, they really are incredibly similar in most aspects , sure one may eek out a bit more armour, or firepower etc but its all marginals.
I mean I was facing them in the CR2 and id rather face the BVM than the leo2a6 /M1A2 at the time.
(didnt really like fighting many of any of them TBH was always an uphill battle)
It’s mortifying af isn’t it.
It’s why i stick to around 9.3 and 10.0
“muh duh german main so you stoopid.”
yeah ad hominem really helps ur case.
you forgot my point that the Gepard nor leopard 1 have such amazing mobility that you could outrun CAS.
unless youre talking about AT ability in which case WHY are you using an SPAA against tanks?
It’s because Gaijin wanted at minimum 2 Abrams per BR when they made the changes. You have the standard M1 and the KVT at 10.7. The IPM1 and M1A1 at 11.3. The HC, M1A2, and Clickbait at 11.7. Both SEPs at 12.0. It’s stupid how the went around deciding the BRs but I see why they did it.
You don’t use the mobility to outrun CAS, good players use mobility in an SPAA to relocate to unpredictable positions to not be an easy target for CAS.
However something tells me you are just one of those spaa players that sits still in spawn and waits to be bombed?
I mean the Gepard is pretty decent against tanks combining it’s mobility and APDS. There aren’t always planes to shoot at, might as well find something else to shoot at.
You shoot once and they see you.
So much for that position bro.
Also try finding such positions that wouldnt get u killed by tanks.
Ive seen the XM246 guys charging forward tanking shots and even HEAT rounds all the time.
Its literally better than the gepard.
Ok* but that depends.
You wait with shooting until you are confident you kill the plane. If you don’t sit in the spawn CAS likely doesn’t know where you are so no reason to start shooting 4km out.
It’s really not that difficult.
Lot of people have skill issue though. I often see Maus tank so many shots even HEAT-FS, should that move to 8.0 or higher now?
It’s a sidegrade mostly, a lot of people just don’t know how to make use of the Gepard’s strengths.
1.5km is the optimal range. ik that lol
with the current map design…
i was arguing to its survivability. its turret basket is kinda effective
maybe, but gepard isnt what it used to be.
The only way I could see the XM246 getting APDS or proxy fuse is for Gaijin to add one of the other original competing designs for that program, such as General Electric’s submission (I believe it was GE) which was just the A-10’s gun mounted on a Patton chassis.
Also ZA-35, Falcon, AMX-30 DCA with full APDS belt
Nither have full apds belts, they have 1 in 4.
Btw the za-35 doesnt even have apds…
Btw the za-35 doesnt even have apds…
Yet it’s still the best 35mm platform for TD purposes.
Because it uses the same stupidly OP aphe that the xm246 uses… it is also far less survivable and has worse gun handling than the xm
Ah yes then theres france with no 9.7 lineup nor 10.7 lineup.
and so on and so forth for every other tree.
Falcon is a monster for TD but substantially worse for AA, the DCA has no stab and is far easier to hit compared to gepard.
The ZA-35 I dont actually have crewed yet but seems decent, however id rather use the Cheiftain marksman over it.
it is also 8.7
sure its also got worse mobility overall
So facing a boatload of leopards and the likes, sounds fine to me, the M247 loosing it’s AP rounds meant that it can seldom damage targets anymore, having a SPAAG with powerful general use rounds is missing from the US tree currently until the LAV-AD, and 10.0 is where funni, gun SPAAG starts to drop off hard.
Just a little off topic but do we know which source that Gaijin use to make M247 only able to carry half of HE-VT of its full load ? (2/4 instead of 4/4)
