Aye I see where I fked up, its got the commanders sight and thermals but theyre gen one, when the sepV2 and such is gen 2 thermals.
Apologies mate, but lets be honest, the only slightly useful upgrade is the CITV and even thats not much to go off, the tanks are still functionally identical.
The M1A1 HC has the same armour, same weapon system, same gunner thermals, optics, same mobility, and arguably the dozer blade is a negative as it means its harder to disguise the tank.
IRCM at that BR is useless anyways unless some poor sods brought a marder or something up to top tier.
The M1A1 HC, and A2 should both be 12.0 vehicles.
Or the M1A1 HC loses M829A2 and stays 11.7 while the A2 moves up to 12.0.
(M1A1 Click- Bait should never have gotten m829A2 without a BR step up.)
yeah I was just trying to say they arent quite identical
if anything I slightly prefer the HC because people tend to take slightly longer to aim and are more likely to mess up a shot when you have the dozer blade on.
the slight amount of armour it gives for giving away the coverage of bushes for me is negligable and not worth it at all man.
Never had that at all with the HC i do worse with it than the M1A1 as the blades given my position away due to it sticking out and not being covered with me camoflauge.
never has it saved me from a round especially at the BR its at, on the chieftain sure but at 11.3 and now 11.7 never.
As I said premium bias mate.
however an M1A2 is substantially better than the T80U for the same BR.
tis comparable to the T80BVM which sits at 12.0
Too many people confuse what we have now, a premium bias, with russian bias.
F18C/A early is an example of this rn.
Or as was stated the T80U-E1 being better than its TT counter part.
Reckon could lump the ram saagol in there as well as its the same BR as the merkava Mk3s but has the additional composites (while it sucks its still better than the TT counterparts from what I’ve seen)
Like the the 10.3 UD is clearly better than the two T-72B almost everywhere, reload, zoom, and having composite armor extend to the lfp, or maybe the B can go down to 10.0 because they kinda sucks to be honest.
Honestly the 2A7s/122s should move to 12.7 at least, tanks like the Type 10s, BVM and SEPv1 should move to 12.3, the M1A2, SEPv2 and T-90M should move to or stay at 12.0 and the M1A1 HC/CB should lose M829A2 and stay 11.7.
And regarding the T-80U-E1. Either it should get a better round, like 3BM60, and move to 12.0 or it should get some sort of disadvantage over the T-80U to justify the same BR.
(of course these BRs are only examples, I would prefer even further decompression)
The extra composite doesn’t actually do too much in terms of protection iirc, the Mk.3B/C side turret composite is already pretty strong. It’s mainly useful in baiting people to shoot empty space.
I see everyone here speaking about HE-VT for the guns and such, I’m moreso wondering where is this thing’s APDS? It’s own brochures show that it can fire APDS.
Its the only KDA equipped 8.3 SPAAG that lacks APDS. If its not getting APDS it should be getting some other round to compensate the vehicle.
The problem is, is it has that single ammo belt. The Gepards get APDS due to an “emergency belt” of ammuntion, hence the 40 rounds. Because this only gets one belt total, it means you would only be able to bring an entire belt of APDS.
That does not sound like a problem to be given the fact that it’s marketing brochure directly references it’s ability to use the rounds.
Either leave the APDS off and move it down in BR, or give it the rounds it historically can use, as it stands it is artificially gimped weapon performance wise and is directly inferior to all other KDA equipped vehicles due to it.
the proxy ammo was barely experimental and not ready at all so it cant be added. its a better gepard tbh. more armour, faster turret as well as no wide AF gap between ur guns
Have you ever even played it? I can survive many hits in it by mutiple enemies as long as it’s not a HE slinger but by the time they see you they would already be desintegrated
Not a good argument against. Lots of things in this game are experimental and/or not ready/functional at all, like:
Yak 141 (No Guns/Radars/Missiles ever equipped and tested)
MiG-9 (Guns did not function on original fighter models at High Alts)
T-34-100 (Gun cracked the turret after firing a couple times)
F-16AJ (Non-existant)
R2Y2s (Planned at most; never built or tested. Paper design fully)
Maus/E-100 (Non-complete; a turret and a hull for testing)
MBT-70/KPZ-70/XM-803 (Experimental Disaster)
M551 Sheridan (Gun-Launcher issues; prone to Spontaneous Combustion).
Not saying you can’t use it as an argument, just that. It’s a poor argument with all else we have in game.