yet somehow worse than a .50cal
Not exactly sure which type but I would assume something similar to what the AMX-10RC has. It was tested on the turret as they had to modify the muzzle brake for it (the one that we have in game is modeled after it afaik). Looking at the fact it’s a french 105mm probably not better than what the amx-30 has
If it is OFL 105 F1 then CLOVIS would be going up to 9.3 as a minimum.
There it would be a clear contender to Centauro and TAM 2IP.
No argument there. But it might have been the OFL 105 F3 which is what the AMX 10RC has and would make more sense at 9.0. I’ll go check if there is any info on that
TAM is at 9.0 with only DM23.
Centauro is at 9.3 with only DM23.
CLOVIS has some clear advantages over those two, regardless of dart pen.
What apart from an autoloader does it have over those 2?
This would suggest it uses the OFL 105 G1
Just cause someone’s lvl 100 doesn’t mean they’re good. I’m still ass at the game
Compared to TAM it has, as you said, better reload speed, better gun handling and gun depression and of course, 20mm autocannon.
Compared to Centauro it has all of the above and better mobility but loses out on thermals.
CLOVIS with 105 G1 and stabilization is 9.3 material.
So that should be a slight upgrade over DM23.
Which I already said is useless (unless there is a helicopter close and low enough to shoot at).
Where’d you put it without the dart?
Can be useful and is definitely better than what TAM/Centauro get.
Can’t decide between 8.7 and 9.0 but seeing the recent pampering France has gotten I’d say it’d end up at 8.7.
Can be useful is still not grounds fro making it affect the BR. The two AMX-30s with only heat are both 8.0 even though one has no 20mm for example.
Any higher than 8.7 with only heat would be a bit mad imo.
20mm on it’s own isn’t enough for a BR change, but will definitely positively affect vehicles that have it instead of boring 7.62mm.
That’s why it should receive dart as well and go up to 9.3 to reinforce busted Super.
No please I just want a stabilised french tank that is not 9.3 or higher please :(
I mean, it would have a high chance of staying at 8.7 with stabilization and HEAT.
It would still be worse than the Turm III in most situations.
Not really. If it was stabed it would be on par with the turm. It has a lrf after all
Keep it up and Gaijin will give us a Moroccan M60A1
No it wouldnt. Worse optics, worse gun depression, worse vertical guidance speed, worse coax and worse ammo. Rangefinder is just crutch to compensate horrid shell velocity which is almost 2 times lower than turm 3 apds velocity. Also its not that useful on 1x1 km city mazes like sweden or rhine
I’m nearly at lvl 100 and I’m a machine which turns perfectly viable vehicles into awful stats and KDs
I’d rather it be overall use of a vehicle rather than just a certain level
I’m level 100 but I’m not very good at air combat. My accomplishments count but someone at lvl 50, who is way better than me shouldn’t count?
What a stupid suggestion.
The game SHOULD be balanced based on stats of both good players and bad players.
THE AVERAGE.
Just shows how undertiered Turm III really is.
