These damn 1DL on my team, only if they had stayed maybe we would have won.
It’s what will happen if people are forced to keep spawning (:
Or they will sat afk at spawn
If you want people to stay, fix the game’s problems
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Agreed. Punishing players does nothing. If someone doesnt want to stay in a match, then no punishment will stop them from just leaving. Especially when there are loopholes that could be easily exploited to avoid any punishments. And if the game is clearly lost, or respawning is waste of time/SLs or backups. Then it just better to quit there and then.
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Problem is, when do you have to admit that it’s not the games issue, but the players themselves…
If EVERYBODY is ODL, and they’re all quitting on everyone else, where is it the games fault when people are complaining about the lack of teammates…
I feel like a lot of people have become precious and very passive… It’s just indicative when you go with a panther into 5.7 right now, and you’re the only one to rush the cap, off the bat.
Panthers aren’t exactly great at slugging it out in CQC. I usually take Tigers to contest a cap, ideally by flanking. Panthers are basically fast tank destroyers in game imho. Get to a good position early with their mobility, and use distance to maximise the strengths (gun, ufp) and minimise weaknesses (reverse, nonexistent side armour, usually slow turret rotation). Of course if the situation is dire, I’ll contest a cap with anything, even a Jagdtiger, but playing Panthers as standoff defensive vehicles is kind of playing them for what they were designed to do to begin with…
In any case. You cannot, from a game design perspective, keep refusing to recognise Gaijin’s share of culpability in this phenomenon. Just like players feel a perverse incentive to 1DL, damaging team play, Gaijin feels a (monetary) perverse incentive to allow 1-vehicle lineups and skip-ahead premiums, damaging team play.
So, no. It is not true that this is a player problem exclusively. It exists on both sides of the aisle.
This is an MMO. If it has to choose between better team play and shorter queues, it will pick the queues, every time.
Likewise, the business case regarding premiums is obvious. Most of the game’s marketing revolves around modern vehicles that will take a long time to reach even with premium accounts. Now, I personally don’t care about that since I routinely play every BR between 1.0 and 7.7 simply for fun. But many players are impatient, or simply don’t care about WW2 stuff, so lo and behold. Buy a top tier premium and get to skip the deliberately agonising slow grind. Great sell. Money in the bank.
I refuse to believe that you truly think Gaijin has an interest in addressing this, and simply - what - hasn’t had the time all these years?
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The rewards for risking your life and cap a zone are lame.
If everybody is ODL, then there is a game issue.
The game rewards you for having one tank lineup, and encourages you to buy top tier vehicles to boost the grind when you have nothing else in that br.
Accept it, ODL is part of the game. I’ve learned that lesson long ago, now I joined them.
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my solution is to play sub 7.3…where players arent afraid to spawn 5 plus times lol. Fun on the bun
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You get more points per minute staying in the match longer.
This issue exists since addition of XM-1 and Leo A1A1 L44. If they though that was an issue they would at least try to fix it, but they did not. Instead more and more high BR premiums are added.
Players have too much and too little control at the same time. IMO this is the biggest issue with RBGF.
Many want to play it, but don’t want to actually play it the way it is.
Maybe because the way it is not fun or stops being fun at certain point in game session so they leave hoping for more fun in next one.
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I don’t think that’s true, it’s just going to scale but the slower pace of the match is going to cost you usually.
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People should play the game in a way that is enjoyable to them. You’re demanding others play the game how you want so it’s enjoyable for you.
Will you next say they must spawn SPAA so you dont die to an early heli spawn? Because apparently its other peoples job to maximize your fun. Maybe they should check with you on what their play style should be too? If they dont play the objective enough it might ruin your time too. Maybe if they perform poorly they should be banned as well because that might make you lose…
If 1DLs effect your game that is a you problem.
I couldn’t care less if my entire team does it. I play the game for my enjoyment, in a style that I like.
Maybe I spawn my entire lineup, maybe I don’t. Maybe I play really aggressively and lose 3 vehicles in the first 5 minutes… will you tell me I can’t do that either?
The only time this point would make sense is if there were a ranked game mode where it is implicit that you play to win no matter what.
But there isn’t, so if someone wants to play the game casually for fun in their free time that is their business. Stop being a narcissist and demanding others change to make the game better for you.
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I just left a match where I had 1 cap and 1 kill before a 3rd enemy killed me. Coming back to get killed by aircraft wasn’t something that sounded like fun.
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I disagree. But that’s not time efficient, unless you are a skilled player. I’m not that skilled and i don’t want to burnout, so i choose the rush cap leave strategy. Now im playing event thunder
@Aizuk
I got 64,000SL after repairs, dying 6 times in a Soviet match that lasted ~9 minutes.
If I OD left it would’ve been closer to 0 - 4000 SL for ~3 minutes of gameplay.
I never got that even when spawning multiple times, so i ODL (=
But you will never see me ODL when playing with friends
The problem is, they’re doing this every match, so if they’re doing it every match, when do we tell them that it’s not their lack of choice or prospect driving this, and that their actions are comppounding because others follow thier lead, leavingf those who ACTUALLY play alone, struggling like the OP…
Stop making excuses for absolutely terrible player attitude and choice.
(Flaggers need banning…)
So we need to solve the problems that make matches not fun, like spawncamping, helicopters, and more
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There is a problem of nervousness from the game, for example, yesterday I was in Battle and I got 8 kills and the last one was Russian I killed him instead of coming down with another tank and killing me And by the way I was in the middle of the map he got down with a Su-25 plane and killed me and I can’t do anything I used a backup and as soon as I got out of the Raspon he killed me wis Su-25 I used to have other tanks but I preferred to get out of the game because the resistance is futile against the Su-25 or Ka-50 or 52 helicopters This problem is that Helicopters are now easier and airplanes so in the first 5 minutes of the game you find half of the enemies team in the air this end you can’t do anything I really hope that a tank mode will be made against tanks or a solution to the air will be found especially in 10.3 when 11.3 fights
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