Ok Move the 2S38 Up and HSTVL Down

Yup. I find the Russian tech tree boring, and haven’t touched it since completing it. Grinding it from start to finish was utterly mindless, and in most vehicles I can do well just by holding the W key.

Oh no muh depression.

Frankly it’s insulting how mindless most of the Russian grind is, they give you so many snowflake advantages like your ballistic capped shells magically having the angled penetration of modern APFSDS because raisins.

And their MBTs are the only things allowed to have armor until the 2A6s.

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it has made non-russian slow attackers like the A-10 completely obsolete

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Another post shilling for Russia. Time to defend the HSTVL from this atrocious.

HSTVL is double the acceleration, faster top speed, smaller, and with a far better round.
HSTVL is superior in every way to 2S38 with thermal generation being the exclusive exception.

That would harm HSTVL. HSTVL is already the best auto-light tank in the game 2nd to none.
ADATS already exists if I want SPAA, and is superior to HSTVL getting 9.7 SPAA features.

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In all fairness Russia has the only good SAMs.

I had to use the Type 93 for a very very long time, and it was nightmarishly painful compared to the Strela which was at the same BR. Now the ZSU-23-M4 is at the same br lmfao.

baluns

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You’re bad because of your takes. stats do not factor. For that matter, we do not have similar stats.

So according to your post, 2S38 is incapable of killing anything at top tier cause it has worse pen than HSTVL, is larger, slower, and more of a walking ammo rack…

HSTVL has no issues playing as a light tank at its BR.

What? All the SPAA equal to 2S38 is 9.7 and below.
2S38 also isn’t a SPAA; though 2S38 fanboys would love it to be buffed by being classed as SPAA for lower spawn points.

lolwat? The ammo takes up the entire crew compartment. That’s not a buff.
2S38s are easier to frag today than at any previous point in War Thunder’s history.

Rolands aren’t in Russia…

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Clown tier take saying rolands are even usable

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Last I checked people have been praising Rolands and Tunguskas lately.
I guess Tunguska is useless now… not to me, but to you guys.

They made it significantly harder to kill a hull down 2S38, because there is only one shell in the turret and it rarely ever detonates. Shooting the hull of a 2S38 is meaningless as that would kill it before, potentially. Although sometimes the autoloader just randomly eats the shell and all spalling. So your point is effectively moot.

Haha. Rolands. Funny joke. The Pantsir exists.
The initial standard Rolands are absolutely garbage since Gaijin’s mentally insane change to SACLOS SAM/ATGM maneuverability. You can dodge virtually any non-top tier SACLOS SAM with a mild roll.

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Find a single, singular, 1, example of someone saying Rolands are great if you can’t, never post on the forums again bub.

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They can kill helis, I guess. Sometimes. Unless the heli is a KA-50 and just blows up your missiles with his missiles lmfao.

even helis can easily dodge roland usually

just fly low, it’s the solution for everything. It’s magical.

I have never once witnessed a hull-down 2S38 partially cause such maps are rare to begin with.
The gun depression doesn’t allow hull-down on the rest of the maps.

Tunguskas and Rolands easily frag aircraft within 6km.

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No, they do not. (Rolands)

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I’m sad to tell you this,but it’s expected by their literal doctrine.

USSR first and Russia then always put their emphasis on SPAA/SAM systems. The only thing left to do,for a game,is to artificially nerf russian vehicles or buff NATO vehicles without getting ahistorical.

Delta 6, basically a DU round capable of penning 400+ mm of RHA, it’s veeeery strong

Ah yes, when your $60,000 SAM with a 50% effectiveness magically outperforms a $330,000 western MANPAD with a 97% effectiveness.

Realism.

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Comparing guns with missiles is the best definition of you being dense in all honesty.

The closest things comparable to the 2S38 are the 40mm L/70 shredders (that literally outperforms the 2S38 but doesn’t have IRST and proper anti-tank capability) and the OTOMATIC (that deserves the spotlight instead of the HSTV-L). Missiles are other things that needs to be addressed separately

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Then add a mechanic that enables two vehicle SPAA setups or adjust the BR of the inferior SPAA OR raise the Pantsir’s BR… lots of options, gaijin does none of them and just lets the pantshitter stay OP

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Agree on both of them,they seriously need to add Radar stations/towed radars and Datalink so that many vehicles already presents can become more viable and you can also add other vehicles (looking at you,Patriot system)

At the same time, decompression on Ground is desperately needed,every nation is simply a cluster of confusion with certain tanks literally dominating downtiers

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