Do you unironically believe that my driver can survive a direct hit from 57mm APFSDS?
Do you honestly believe that being hit by one of the smallest spall cones at high and top tier doesn’t count as a hit?
Had the same experience while playing my M1 Abrams lmao. The guy just hold down his left click and spent 25+ round harrasing me thru the smoke until i died. Lots of skill required for that.
Then start grinding other nations, that’s the player’s skill issue(yes gaijin fault for adding toptier especially tanks in general). 2S38 got nerfed. also the APFSDS has 0 spalling, against Leopard 2’s the front is safe exept driver, and from the side you have to hit the crew like it’s a double spalliner, it’s worse than the spalling of a tank with spalliners and a normal size shell
Yes. Its slower than EVERY mbt. Thus it can’t flank them and use it’s firerate to kill everyone from the sides.
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And besides that, it’s situational vehicle - how can it be op?
T-80ud is better.
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I don’t see the reason why people comparing it with HSTV-L only, while Begleitpanzer and CV9040 series are much much closer to 2S38 in multi-role capabilities.
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You have killed 9040A without any composite screens, no wonders you one-shotted it.
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but you seem to play the 2s38 more than the hstlv which you only have 10 games in.
this has been happening for years.
And another hundreds of games against HSTVLs. Those 10 games it survived lot of stuff that would kill it. Half of the shots just disable turret ring and that is the only damage,then you turn whole tank and kill the enemy,repair and continue on your way.
No, it’s not.
That if the enemy isn’t a STRV or 2A7 or BVM that 99% of the time you fight against.
HSTVL does fine against those from my experience.
And again… another “ruski bias” brainless crying, I wonder how the authors of such topics have the energy to write them all the time
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They do not.
The 2s38 and BMP-2M, to name just two examples, do the exact same thing. It has nothing to do with the HSTVL, or any other vehicle for that matter, and everything to do with how the game handles armor at extremely shallow angles. Due to the vagaries of online multiplayer this can sometimes happen even when it looks like it shouldn’t on your screen. Because of this vehicles with harshly angled plates have a tendency to survive shots they probably shouldn’t.
Strv 103 my beloved <3
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It’s not “allegedly” missing a better. We know it’s missing the better round. It’s a known a fact that the HSTVL has used better rounds than what it uses in game. Stop playing word games. By using the word “allegedly” you are insinuating that the round may not exist.
It’s almost as if the otomatic should be lowered in BR because it sucks at being an SPAA. Hell even the LAV is better than that thing. The OTOMATIC should be at a .3 or .7 br higher than the 2S38 because both have pretty much the same capability and play style. The only difference is apfsds round where the 2s38 gets a weaker penning/post pen damage round but it gets a massive ammo pool along with better survivability.
edit: You should not be using player statistics as a way of seeing if a vehicle is OP or not, let along using that statistics on premium vehicles. You will be lumping in low level premium players and braindead players. Rather you should be comparing vehicle statistics and capability.
If you start using player statistics then you start getting 2 tanks that are exactly the same but one gets reduced in br because a certain group of players suck (germain m48)
Sure, when Otomatic loses its 105mm DM23 equivalent round.
Glad you agree with me.
If you did use player stats then you’d think the 2S38 is OP when it isn’t.
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