It’s nothing to do with elitism and everything to do with information availability. We are game based on historical vehicles. If there is not enough historical information, resources and practical sources to implement a vehicle, there is a limit of what can be added to the game.
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So… I take it you must be the high priest of the Church of the OI?
ALL PRAISE THE FAKE PAPER TANK!!!
lol. Vehicalist? Can’t tell if your posts are sarcasm or… I hope they are sarcastic. Otherwise that is just sad.
I rarely do sarcasm or any such human shenanigans.
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Here is the test drive documents translated, but the AI struggled:
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Translating handwritten documents accurately, especially from an image, can be quite challenging without the ability to directly interact with the text and its context. The translation of the images provided may not be completely accurate due to the handwritten nature and potential technical terminologies used. However, I will do my best to provide a translation based on the visible content.
Translation of the Provided Documents
First Image:
Left Page:
July 30:
- [Content unclear]
July 31:
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Deploy to location A at 8:31 AM, Task 2: move to location B.
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Procedure for dismantling equipment:
- Begin disassembly at 7:03 AM, all necessary tools are ready.
- Dismantling starts with [illegible text] and proceeds to the main body.
August 1:
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Move to base location (coordinate B).
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Perform the following checks:
- Check oil levels, replace if necessary.
- Inspect cables for wear and tear.
- Ensure all bolts are tightened securely.
- Equipment Diagram:
- Illustration of a gear mechanism with annotations N6.7, N6.8.
- Description of assembly sequence and positioning.
Right Page:
Procedure Details:
- Installation of the main unit should follow the outlined steps.
- Connect the power supply to the primary unit and secure all connections.
- Diagram of installation site:
- Dimensions: 1200mm x 500mm.
- Positioning notes and placement instructions.
Final Checks:
- Confirm all systems are operational before starting.
- Perform a trial run to ensure everything is functioning correctly.
- Make adjustments if necessary and document any changes made.
Notes:
- [Several points about installation specifics, measurements, and conditions.]
Second Image:
Left Page:
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Component Overview:
- Descriptions of individual components, their specifications, and installation requirements.
- Illustration: Depicts the assembly of a mechanical part.
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Assembly Instructions:
- Step-by-step guide to assembling the equipment.
- Tools required for each step.
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Testing Procedures:
- Details on how to test the equipment once assembled.
- Criteria for passing the tests.
Right Page:
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Quality Control Measures:
- Procedures for inspecting the final assembly.
- List of common issues and how to address them.
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Operational Guidelines:
- Instructions for operating the equipment safely.
- Maintenance schedules and troubleshooting tips.
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Performance Data:
- Table with performance metrics and expected outcomes.
- Comparison with standard benchmarks.
Please note that some parts of the handwritten text were unclear, which may affect the accuracy of the translation. If you have more specific sections that need to be translated or if there’s additional context you can provide, please let me know!
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Fake tanks are just bad
Yet the Ostwind II was added based on a single line saying a production order was placed? Also the only 2 historians Doyle and Jentz who claimed that the vehicles did begin production, later removed those claims in subsequent editions of the books that the claim was made? The vehicle that doesn’t even have any blueprints to even base a 3D model on so has an entirely made up turret in game?
Same with the Zerstorer 45 that once again had a single line in documents that ordered the production of the vehicle with no actual documents showing what the vehicle looked like.
The O-I has way more evidence than that if those 2 vehicles are the standard of minimum documentation for what could be added. Like we at least know what the O-I looks like which is way more than could be said about the other 2.
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I remember that, however since that statement was last given a lot of time has past and information surfaced. Not too long ago the suggestion for it was passed as well.
As it stands now, information on the O-I is far more detailed than any of the mostly classified modern MBTs are.
For a more fitting comparison the German Ostwind II and Zerstörer 45 both are in a similar state of being real, but not photographed. However, unlike those two, there are detailed plans on the O-I, while the Ostwind II and Zerstörer 45s exact layouts had to be based off assumptions.
So with all of that in mind I doubt the O-I is still being rejected by the developers.
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Ostwind II was based on a shipment manifest, it was on a train, it got lost sometime after being shipped.
A combat-capable Ostwind II was still shipped, and there’s no evidence those government documents were forged.
Vs OI which actually has no confirmation of one being built.
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So your argument here is that someone built an upsized one meter wide Chi-Ha track link for shits and giggles?
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Track links aren’t tanks.
The statement is current. A suggestion topic being passed to the developers is not an endorsement from the developers in any way that the tank will be introduced.
You are free to doubt what you wish. My job is simply to provide the current facts as they are from the developers.
If circumstances change then the answer changes. However this topic is here and now and this is the current answer from the developers. As I explained above, if new / more information comes to light, then the situation may well change. But as it currently stands, it has not.
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So that is enough for an addition of a vehicle we don’t even know the look of…
…but all of this, among other sources and a leftover tracklink for a vehicle we have detailed depictions of is not?
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So this statement is from a dev that has taken a look at the suggestion and its given sources?
I can understand this statement if it’s a few years old, or from a dev that simply never saw the new information since then, but this is just sad.
Is there at least info on what they are missing in particular? Pictures come to mind, but some other vehicles didn’t need those, so I’m not sure…
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Found a new Swedish super heavy tank, I hope this one will be eligible for suggestion, after all, we have evidence that it existed (although in a weird language for some reason) and Sweden is in a dire need of a tech tree heavy…
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We’ll see this before the actual O-I
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@コタリ does make a point, a good one. The Ostwind II barely has any information at all to prove that it existed in the first place. Perhaps making an article that explains why vehicles such as the O-I cannot be added at the moment but vehicles such as the Ostwind II can.
Is this down to the fact that it was more of a necessity since the Germans lacked Anti Air in that department or what was it exactly?
The cause has been a question that has never been answered for almost a full decade, 8 years to be exact since the first suggestion was back in 2017 when the MI-To was passed for consideration. But this question has been lingering since before 2016.
Looking at something you said a bit earlier that I didn’t read until now, has that developer read any of the new information that is being provided now cause you may just be doing your job but you got a massive community who want the damn thing added getting rather annoyed that us who play Japanese ground who do not care for modern get absolutely nothing almost every update. It is either 1 vehicle for ground, 0, or some copy and paste that Japan did have.
It’s simply tiring especially since people put a lot of effort into finding the information even with language barriers are still willing to go out of their way and make a suggestion for it, only for it to only ever get passed for consideration 15 updates later while the rest are stuck in limbo. Other nations are prioritized due to them having a larger player base which is only because they have a larger number of options and play styles since other nations are limited on how you run them.
Partially a rant so I highly apologize for that but it’s just getting very tiring and knowing we get very little in return which we are thankful for but still wish Japan got more of a focus for once. Compared to other nations. Anyway with that I apologize for it being super long.
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Track links go on tanks, and wouldn’t be made if there wasn’t a tank to use them on.
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Tracks are almost always made as the last thing. since you would have the tracks placed on the ground and have the roller wheels roll onto them. However, this is usually done on very smooth ground so the rollers don’t get damaged in any meaningful ways.
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