@x_Shini say i know you don’t like the Benelux tree, but what if you put the Benelux and Switzerland together?
Regional trees seem to be popular with Central-Eastern Europe and Latin America, but this one would only need like 3 countries to work
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at that point it gets even more convuluted, without a real or certain theme anymore. Benelux at least got a theme going for it and switzerland isnt connected to it at all.
Besides that we once again get back to the problem what the switz tree actualy brings to the table, either again a copy paste leoapard or many mock up non functioning vehicles that many mistakenly believe to be real tanks .
Best example the 2A4 Ruag, complete extra armor is only mock up, it was never implemented
Neither does it solves the beneluxes giant problem of missing top tier spaa
i mean the CEE and LATAM tree don’t really either yet they seem to be pretty popular
ah right how could i forget only top tier MBTs matter to you…
Well, LATAM follows a certain theme, but generaly yes, to many nations put together into 1 basket to even make it possible
well that ones on you buddy
That’s kinda the point of a tech tree though? You want it to be at least somewhat special, but if that’s not possible, to be at least very good. This idea of yours just smashes a Leopard 2A6 TT with a Leopard 2A4C TT. Aside from that as Shini stated, the TT would have a massive issue in regards with SPAA at higher tiers (they’re what makes or breaks most nations).
Alas, Swiss are destined to be in Germany’s TT sooner or later, with the addition of the Obj 292, Leopard 2-140 (the Swiss one) will be added there.
don’t the Swiss have a 140 mm Leopard and an ADATS? And no, they’re not “destined” to go to Germany, we don’t know that.
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As I already stated, the Leo 2-140 will go to Germany (as they haven’t got a 140mm proto of their own pretty much), and Switzerland never had an ADATS system mounted on a vehicle afaik.
They’re very much destined to end up with Germany, at this point more’so than Netherlands will ever be (again, the 140mm prototype). Pandora’s box has been opened.
Common sense…? I could also do it like y’all do it and just go “because I said so” when arguing against the addition of Dutch vehicles to Germany’s TT. This goes both ways.
Again, what other 140mm prototype will go to Germany’s TT otherwise, do enlighten me (50% chance you will talk about that 2AV based “prototype” that likely never existed, and a 50% chance you will just mention the KF51 that will outperform everything to such a degree where 90% of people will want it removed).
Fair enough on the ADATS though.
It isn’t common sense when Gaijin hasn’t stated anything about more Swiss vehicles destined to go to the German tree. When they do, then fair enough, but they haven’t.
Stop dodging the question. What other 140mm prototype will go to Germany’s TT (with Obj 292’s addition, those vehicles will start appearing en masse sooner or later after all).
As of today, the Swiss Leo 2-140 is the only choice, no other option exists apart from the KF 51 (3s reload, better firepower, significantly better optics yada yada).
There is no dodging around the question. If Germany doesn’t have a 140 mm prototype, then Germany won’t get a 140 mm. Unless they get a Swiss subtree, but we, don’t, know.
NPzK-140
Right, so just throw Germany under the bus when everybody else will receive those? As expected from the guy who believes BeNeLux not lacking proper top tier won’t be an issue.
Who am I kidding, everyone and their mother is already aware the Swiss are going to Germany :D
That thing never existed in proper sense. It’s a mock-up with no real capabilites apart from the cannon itself (I was the one who gave information to the creator of that thread on the vehicle).
Strv 2K invites you to its club, will you accept the invitation?
Jokes aside, it’s Pz 87-140 or bust.
I’d love to have it in game but it won’t be a thing at least until Gaijin runs out of possible additions.
that tech tree has many fictional vehicles in it, just saying