so by that logic, the f4c should go to 10.0 because it doesn’t have flares right?
no one trusts gaijin, and their hidden stats they never release.
Nah the A-10C is fine where it is. It’s pretty easy to fly even for a mainly ground player like myself.
Disagree. Both it and the A-10As and Su-25/ks should go back down to their original BR if they aren’t getting a forward spawn.
Absolutely not. They do not need it and are not air superiority fighters. Go take your all-aspect truck elsewhere.
Eh I disagree. All of them are easy to fly and likely have bad statistics due to some of them being premiums and the others being in the premium BR range.
They are airplanes in an air battle mode. They just had to suffer asinine move because skill issue.
Still sad that none of my suggestions ever get considered. I’ve been saying many of the same ones for years. I’m also disappointed you didn’t go all the way up to 12.7 like the air tree does. There are players who take 12.7 aircraft into ground RB who are forced to wait for an incredibly long time just to get a game. Simply due to only being able to match up with 11.7 and now 12.0 tanks.
British RB Ground BR’s:
- RB, A1E1 Independent: 1.3 down to 1.0. Terrible armour for a heavy tank, worse than many nations light tanks even at 1.0. Terrible mobility. Massive target. 3-Pdr gun isn’t a redeeming factor either, it’s not the worst gun in the game, but due to all the other factors combined it’s made much worse. It’s still not going to be an amazing tank at BR 1.0, but people might actually buy it more. So there’s incentive for you to drop it too.
- RB, SARC IVa: 1.3 down to 1.0. It’s fast, and that’s kind of it. If you compare it to the Daimler it shares a BR with, it loses in almost every respect. Worse armour, no shoulder stabiliser, gun is incredibly bouncy and kicks like a mule after firing, worse gun elevation and depression angles, and it’s open-topped. Even comparing it to the Tetrarch it does poorly against, with much of the same issues as the Daimler.
- RB, Churchill Mk. I: 3.3 down to 3.0. The 2-Pdr is horrendous at this point, mainly due to the lack of mobility to flank. Even taking it in full downtiers it struggles to penetrate Pz. III M’s, M4A1’s, T-34’s, etc. Just look at protection analysis.
- RB, Sherman II: 3.7 down to 3.3. Just get rid of the APCR and drop it down to 3.3 with the rest of the M4A1’s in-game. It doesn’t need to be artificially increased in BR due to a round it never received. Dropping it down to 3.3 also means you can add the Sherman V as a tech-tree vehicle at 3.7 and even a 3.7 premium with a pair of RP-3 rockets.
- RB, Crusader AA Mk II: 4.0 down to 3.7. I don’t understand why this vehicle even went up. Just compare it to the Wirbelwind, far less rate-of-fire, less penetration, and half the guns. The only advantage the Crusader AA Mk. II has is an enclosed turret and more mobility. The 2 were very asymmetrically balanced.
- RB, Churchill Mk. III: 4.0 down to 3.7. Less mobility than the Churchill Mk. I, same hull armour, and worse turret armour (only 3.5 inches compared to 4 inches). The gun is better, but that’s it. It’s also the same gun that’s on the AEC Mk. II at 3.0. It’s also the wrong gun, see my bug report, it should be a 6-Pdr Mk III which is even more justification for a drop in BR.
- RB, Churchill NA75: 4.3 down to 4.0. It’s more of a side-grade over the Churchill Mk. III, not a direct upgrade. You lose the good rate-of-fire, lose the shoulder stabiliser, and lose a decent amount of penetration for a better damaging shell. That’s the only difference, the shell is good but if the Churchill Mk. III goes down then the NA75 should as well.
- RB, Comet: 5.3 down to 5.0. It’s really a shadow of its former self. The A30 Challenger is a better vehicle in almost everyway. Just compare it to the VK 3002 (M).
- RB, AC IV: 5.3 down to 5.0. It’s just a better Firefly. Again, just compare it to the VK 3002 (M).
- RB, Skink: 5.3 down to 4.7. Just like the Crusader AA Mk. II really don’t understand why it keeps going up. Again, just compare it to the Wirbelwind, you still have less firepower and penetration but now have the double the guns of the Crusader AA Mk. II, and the same amount of guns as the Whirbelwind. Is that really worth a BR increase of 1.3 currently (4.0 to 5.3)? The Bosvark is a far better SPAA at 5.3.
- RB, Tortoise: 6.7 down to 6.3. Just compare it to the T28, very similar vehicles except the Tortoise is covered in weakspots, lacks APHE, and just as slow. If you add the missing APDS round then it can stay at 6.7.
- RB, Centurion Mk 3: 7.7 down to 7.3. It’s been power creeped by new additions and previous BR adjustments. Just compare it to the Centurion Mk 5/1 which has far better armour and secondary weapons, the Caernarvon which has a better front plate, and then the Conqueror which has amazing armour especially with the add-on armour module. At 7.3 the Centurion Mk 3 can make a line up with the FV4202 which it compares well against. This also opens up an opportunity to add a new Centurion 7/1 or 8/1 as a new 7.7 vehicle, with the other being a new premium.
- RB, Falcon: 8.3 down to 7.7. Just remove the APDS and/or adjust the belts. There’s now 3 British SPAA’s at 8.3 now, what’s the point? The Falcon has no radar and should be lower. Just compare it to the ZSU-37-2 and the VEAK 40 which have similar shells and radar, yet both are 7.7. If the APDS is removed it will have worse penetration than both of the above mentioned vehicles.
- Chieftain Mk 10: 9.0 to 9.3. Remove L15A3 as the stock round and replace it with L15A5. Remove the fake L23 round and replace it with the correct L23A1, this bug report has been outstanding for like 4 years. Add a tier IV modification to turn the vehicle into a Mk 11 with TOGS, it’s a very minor visual change swapping the IR light box for a TOGS box. This also adds the potential for a new Mk 5/4 to be added at 9.0, you lose the stillbrew of the Mk 10 and the .50 ranging gun of the Mk 5 but gain L15A5 as a stock round and L23A1 as the top round.
Khalid: 9.3 to 9.0. This thing is just a faster Mk 5 and definitely not worth a 0.7 BR increase, especially when the Mk 5 missing LRF bug report is actioned. It should also get L15A5 as a top round. It would compare quite well against a new Mk 5/4, this offers far more power-to-weight and speed, while the Mk 5/4 has better firepower.
Swedish RB Ground BR’s:
- RB, SAV 20.12.48: 3.7 to 4.0. This vehicle is a monster. Not much else to be said really.
Soviet RB Ground BR’s:
- RB, SU-122: 2.7 to 3.0. This, and the two vehicles below are incredibly powerful. Especially against new players. You see entire squads of SU-122, M4A3 (105), and StuH 42 G when playing these BR’s.
US RB Ground BR’s:
- RB, M4A3 (105): 3.0 to 3.3. Again, low tier monster. Armour might as well be a Jumbo in a 2.0 uptier.
German RB Ground BR’s:
- RB, StuH 42 G: 3.0 to 3.3. Same story as the SU-122 and M4A3 (105).
French RB BR changes:
- RB, AMD.35 (SA35): 1.7 to 1.0. This thing is trash. It’s basically a side-grade to the 1.0 AMD 35.
- RB, M4A3 (105): 3.0 to 3.3. Same reasons as above mentioned SU-122, StuH 42 G, and US M4A3 (105). Moving all these vehicles up would improve the new player experience drastically.
Italian RB BR changes:
- RB, M15/42: 2.7 to 2.3. It’s really not a massive jump from the M13/40 (II), M13/40 (III), or M14/41. Very small jump in penetration, small jump in top speed and power-to-weight, and better hull armour. That’s pretty much it.