Nuke B29 spawning from airfield is stupid

ZendikarHaven · June 9, 2024, 4:46pm

I agree for Ground RB, but as for Air RB…

I am in the group that thinks we should have airspawn for all aircraft, similar to Air AB.

T0HRU · June 9, 2024, 4:46pm

nuh-uh, spawning nuke isnt bad decision but spawning it on AF is, it’s not like i had any other choice

Laserdestroy_1 · June 9, 2024, 4:47pm

Spawning a heavy bomber when there is heavy fighter cover is a bad idea you donut.

T0HRU · June 9, 2024, 4:49pm

even if i say 9.4KM it still make sense because that was the altitude when B29 nuked japan, they werent crazy enough to drop nuke at 50 meter above ground like people does in this gaem

CmdrVince · June 9, 2024, 4:56pm

You couldve just not spawned the nuke in all fairness

Laserdestroy_1 · June 9, 2024, 4:56pm

And those B-29s had ample amount of time to reach 9.4km. How about you fly your nuke plane for hours to reach that altitude?

T0HRU · June 9, 2024, 4:58pm

read

T0HRU · June 9, 2024, 4:59pm

what? just move the AF spawn to air spawn? tf are you talking about

CmdrVince · June 9, 2024, 4:59pm

Yeah you would have lost but you clearly got shot down so lost anyway. So you could have just. not spawned it and not given someone an extra 20k SL.

T0HRU · June 9, 2024, 5:00pm

or i spawn it win the game and get 15k
it’s a gamble but gaijin made it unfair

Laserdestroy_1 · June 9, 2024, 5:00pm

I wpuld also agree with that, but have long range/frontline bombers start at 9km, strike aircraft around 1km, and fighters somewhere in between. But that would be my idea thoughts on the numbers. Props and subsonics only though, supersonic jets and avdanced missiles would be kind of wierd with high level spawns.

Laserdestroy_1 · June 9, 2024, 5:01pm

This is why not.

Laserdestroy:

The neat thing about the nuke feature is it needs to be a counterable thing. Just as the ideas of nuclear cruise missiles, this would make interception nigh impossible. This isn’t Call of Duty where a nuke explodes out of nowhere. The nuke carrier and nuke are physical objects and can be countered, and should always be counterable as it fits Warthunders gameplay.

Planes are effectively the only way to counter nuke planes, because usually SPAA cannot effectively aquire and engage the plane before the drop because they are usually too low to be detected and fire in time. Not only does a 4000m air spawn make the drop range much longer for the plane, it also ensures that no ground based system will be able to engage it at all. Planes can only counter them if they are already spawned and over the battlefield, otherwise they cannot close the distance fast enough to intercept. Adding the air spawn will make this even harder because of the altitude difference. Making interception harder than it already is.

In closing, the nuke system is fine where it is. Nukes aren’t a guarantee until the bomb detonates, and shouldn’t be changed in a fashion where they are virtually impossible to intercept. The idea that @GoneToTheAether has is best, where all aircraft should airfield spawn except for vehicles unable to take off from the small dirt rundays, and those aircraft should spawn just above the runway at speed instead of 1000s of meters in the sky.

Laserdestroy_1 · June 9, 2024, 5:02pm

Or you spawn it and get shot down in the process. Nukes are not a gauruntee in this game.

T0HRU · June 9, 2024, 5:02pm

im not reading all that thoguh

Laserdestroy_1 · June 9, 2024, 5:02pm

Yea, because it’s a well thought out argument thay disagrees with you. You’re just an ignorant angry donut.

T0HRU · June 9, 2024, 5:02pm

because they spawn it on AF not 9.4 like in real life

Laserdestroy_1 · June 9, 2024, 5:03pm

This isnt real life, this is a video game.

Also it would take you HOURS to reach that altitude becausr bombers also don’t magically materialize in the sky in real life.

T0HRU · June 9, 2024, 5:04pm

exactly why i said

GNDM_Panzer · June 9, 2024, 5:04pm

Skill issue.
Awareness issue.

T0HRU · June 9, 2024, 5:04pm

well done proving my claim