The whole point of the nuke carrier being the way it is is for it to be countered.
I am well aware how a bomber the size of a B-29 will not be able to decide the outcome between it and a fighter- but the whole point of a nuke carrier, and the bombers, is that they aren’t supposed to instantly be able to decide a match either. Of course they are going to be vulnerable. Of course they are going to struggle against fighters. Because that is reasonably speaking the only counter the have at that BR. Nukes are not, and never have been, an end all be all. Once you got a nuke it has never immediately been game over. Gaijin intentionally has you spawn in a plane because they don’t WANT it to be an end all be all. It is supposed to be an option- not a guarantee.
The nuke spawns, and carriers, are intentional in this. A nuke is a counter- a fighter is a counter to the counter. Moving or repositioning or changing the nuke is an inherently counter to the counters counter- which is stupid and ridiculous for a variety of reasons.
I have come at you with ridiculous remarks because you have failed to consider this point that I have previously made, and simply either didn’t know or acted like it didn’t exist. The point is fair- one I’ve heard echoed before- and yet your decision is to say “but that’s not what we were talking about” as if it didn’t have relevance to the conversation.
I should be able to hear the siren, j out, spawn in a fighter, and have a chance of reaching you. That alone adds 20 seconds to the time to spawn in a plane, assuming I can.
If you spawn at 2000m, you can trade the altitude in for speed. By doing that, it becomes impossible for me to reach you before you hit the airfield- a task already difficult as is- and therefore, the whole point of having you spawn in a plane is negated, and having a chance to counter you, is negated.
Yes, fighters may be faster, but if you spawn at altitude, there is no chance for them to catch up. They spawn at a similar speed to you, at a similar distance, with the only difference being altitude. Assuming I had to J out and spawn in to counter you (a fair assumption given most people do not spawn a nuke without checking if their is air cover), I’ve lost 20 seconds, so that altitude turned to speed is my only chance to catch you. And even then, that’s assuming everything goes to plan- not accounting for map size, terrain, etc.
I have only seen a handful of nukes get shot down. I have only had maybe 2-3 of mine get shot down.
I usually just stay low and use terrain where possible and i can get to the battlefield.
Better air spawn would probably have to be at the edge of the map at no more than 3km. Even then, they would need to mark the bomber for at least a few seconds. Cloud cover is very strong for nukes since they dont have to worry about seeing a target.
Oof, that was painful to read. Are you OK op? Seems like you’re being mishandled… But I agree, make them bad boys spawn at height, remove siren alert, and remove enemy planes. Fixed.
most people who killed my nuke is already on battlefield above tanks so it doesnt really matter
even currently plane who spawn at the same time as nuke cant catch the nuke
spawning nuke at height is really just to make already on battlefield enemy plane use a little bit of effort to climb
I once climbed to 5km altitude, take years to reach the battlefield and the enemy fighters failed to locate me lol then once I reached the middle of the battlefield I find myself can’t drop the nuke, and choose to dive down until I see the message to drop bomb, I don’t know I would get this lucky the next time it happens again, the reason I choose to climb because there was enemy 2-3 fighters and my team has like 3 players left, the enemy has 10.
As I avoid the BR range above 8.0. Are there still B-29, Canberra and Tu aircraft as nuke carriers up to BR range 12?
If so, I’m definitely in favour of having aircraft adapted to the circumstances in the game. What about the Vulcan, B-52 (old variants)? Beautiful aircraft.
So you are complaining about being shot down in a nuke when you knew their were enemy planes up?
That’s childish. You sent yourself to deal voluntarily and are comparing about it. Ridiculous.
That simply isn’t true. It just takes effort to reach the nuke- using WEP and diving gives you a chance to catch it, which as of now is a quite fair system
Again- you spawned the nuke in a poor circumstance, putting yourself VOLUNTARILY in that position. You cannot complain when all you did was do this to yourself.
This would be like me complaining that my heavy tank is weak and needs a buff, when the hull time (pun intended) I intentionally had my hull side on to the enemy negating my armor.
Haha, you got me mate, you got me. I thought this would be a funny scenario. A death ray just blapping mleming you out of the sky to make way for ze nuke.
You didn’t counter anything you just kinda called us names and then said “I don’t like what you have to say so I’m not listening”
Plus, as you said, you lose regardless. Clearly if you are loosing bad enough a nuke is your only option, and they have planes in the sky, you were going to lose anyway. It’s not like by having your nuke shot down they have drastically changed the outcome of the battle. Unlike having your nuke spawn at 2000m and flying into the battlefield straight away, which is clearly both what you want and what you expect unrealistically
You didn’t. You also however spoke nothing on my counterpoint- you were already losing. Getting shot down did not drastically change the outcome of the battle. Unlike the nuke. Which, had you spawned at altitude, above the battlefield, would have been uncounterable. Making it an unfair loss for the team already whopping your behind because they wouldn’t be able to counter one players great performance over all of their good ones.