Does anyone know a US anti-radiation missile that can track J-band that is 11.0 BR or lower?
I’m testing Nuclear Escalation and the ZSU-23-4V is the primary close-range AA and it seems like there aren’t any ARM that can track its J-band radar, essentially making the addition of Shrikes useless against these.
AGM-45B-3B tracks: E, F
AGM-45B-4 tracks: G
AGM-45B-6 tracks: I
(F-105D, F-111A, F-4C)
AGM-45B-9 tracks: H, I
AGM-45B-10 tracks: E, F, G
(A-6E TRAM, A-7E)
They can track other AA’s like
S75 (P-12 radar) - G band
SNR-75 radar - G band
Osa AKM - H band
… I still need to test more npc AA types.
Looks like we’re stuck throwing Mavericks at the ZSU-23’s which are so slow and get shot down 80% of the time
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Kind of a US industrial issue, no AGM-45 seeker goes above I band so it’s not a gaijin problem
I don’t think shilkas were a big problem in Vietnam and these were mainly used against S-75 and Vietnamese radars. Also irl the AGM-45 sucked and the AGM-78 kind of replaced it later on
I haven’t played the new nuclear escalation but if they haven’t they should add the AGM-78. It had broadband almost for the beginning with the 78B in 1969 and many more improvements as it continued. Gaijin probably won’t add it because it is superior to Russian tech and that just can’t be
Right, and I guess that’s where I start having issues for Nuke Esc mode… the primary AA you see is the ZSU-23 and yet our ARM can’t track it.
The TV mavericks are so close-range you’re already shot down by the time the TV seeker can lock (issue with moving targets).
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its a myth that Shrike sucked
the low Hit rates where a result of literally firing shrikes at inactive SAM sites to keep them supressed every 15-30s
Infact, the AGM-45 actually outlived the AGM-78 as the AGM-45 was still used widely in desert storm thanks to its low cost
Agm 122 are J band but only on harriers
And none of the harriers with the sidearm are 11.0 or below.
the M163 doesn’t even have a search radar for Russia to lock with their ARMs yet the shilka’s J band is the problem?
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If you’re mad about that, are you the problem?
Because shilka irl wasnt THAT cracked. If it was, planes would fly with shilka turret, tanks would drive with shilka turret, hell, even infantry would walk with shilka turret.
OP prob havent played ru side yet and posted first issue they found.
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Yeah Russian tech is so superior in the game, that Gaijin made the American SPAA have no search radar for Russian ARMs to track. Impressive
well its a pretty balanced problem. the US cant fire at shilkas and the russians cant fire at the M163. so both get to suffer the same. especially for the 8.7-9-7 bracket that doesnt even get ARMs
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As a humble response to this, I believe both AA’s are too accurate and a setting should be changed to make them less accurate, at least.
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I’m pretty sure you just wait until M163 locks you and fire an I band at it, but I don’t play Russia side to test it. Russian jets do have ARM’s that can track I band, which is the band used on the M163’s tracking dish:
Su-17M4 gets Kh-58U A and Kh-27PS which are I band.
Su-22M3 gets Kh-27PS.
The MiG-27M and K have the Kh-31P L-111 but those are removed from the event.
But Russia does have an I-band ARM worth trying out.
this means the US also needs I band
For Nuclear Escalation, US does not need I-band, it either needs J-band or for the AA to be switched out for something that has a band that the Shrikes can cover since they don’t get J-band except for the premium AV-8 which is 11.3 so it can’t be used anyway.
I tried using kh58 and kh27ps on both m163 and hawk radars and they either miss or get intercepted in most cases. Kh27ps lacks range and guidance time. And kh58u just loses track because its too fast which leads to aa turning off their radars. Also if you launch them too close (like at m163 when it starts tracking) missiles have no time to start tracking and miss. Its just as good as not having arm at all. I prefer unguided rockets and normal agms instead. Also mclos missiles. They have one secret property which makes them good.