Welp I still don’t see any reason why M833 would break balance.
I know you don’t.
Again Gaijin isn’t indicator what is right. This have been proven.
Irrelevant whether we think they are right or wrong for whatever change gets made. There will be people on either side of the position and some will agree and some will disagree. The only thing that matters is what they choose to do.
The bug reports you’ve cited have been submitted as a suggestion not approved or are more complex. Gaijin are well aware that M833 is a shell that the M1 used, and they have very specifically stated that shell selection is a balancing tool and they are choosing not to give it to the M1 at this time.
Welp the evidence that suggest otherwise isn’t show up after all
I disagree. The same i disagree that they should add more top-tier premuim. (They add it anyway and cause balance issue because no match-making balance being adjust after)
Even if it didn’t change a things and they still do it again (i’m sure). I’ll not support them. And i’ll keep judging them if they keep doing the wrong things.
No the bug report section i post is just the prove that Gaijin doesn’t act on somethings doesn’t mean they are right or ok to do that.
Welp the evidence that suggest otherwise isn’t show up after all
The evidence is there and has been presented, you just disagree anyway. Ultimately it doesn’t matter since gaijin probably are not overly concerned if you disagree.
I disagree. The same i disagree that they should add more top-tier premuim. (They add it anyway and cause balance issue because no match-making balance being adjust after)
Even if it didn’t change a things and they still do it again (i’m sure). I’ll not support them. And i’ll keep judging them if they keep doing the wrong things.
Good for you. I wonder how well your lack of support will hold out when your premium time runs out or a new vehicle you want appears. Hope it holds out and isn’t just vacant words.
No the bug report section i post is just the prove that Gaijin doesn’t act on somethings doesn’t mean they are right or ok to do that.
No it doesn’t. Those bug reports you linked have been passed for suggestion and are still under review. The bug reports for M833 have already been reviewed and rejected with reasoning given. Those are very different.
Gaijin really likes to get money from people buying higher tier premiums, so if they had even a slight reason to add a better round to M1 KVT, they’d done it ages ago. Just look how quickly Click-Bait received handouts.
Can you quote me to that then . Because i seem to miss it. i’ll be waiting.
Tbh i couldn’t care less what Gaijin think about fact.
Now now When did i mention premium time or new vehicle in that post you quote ???
I disagree that Gaijin will add top-tier premuim vehicles and won’t balance them in match-making.
You miss the point why i bring those bug report up. They had nothing to do with M833
They show that
Can you quote me to that then . Because i seem to miss it. i’ll be waiting.
There is a thread here with every post that has been made and all the information which has been presented. The great benefit of the forum format and you can enjoy reading at your will.
Tbh i couldn’t care less what Gaijin think about fact.
Well you clearly do since you are unhappy with their actions and complaining about them here.
Now now When did i mention premium time or new vehicle in that post you quote ???
I disagree that Gaijin will add top-tier premuim vehicles and won’t balance them in match-making.
Well you said you weren’t going to support them if they keep doing wrong things (in your opinion). What are you going to rescind? Your moral support? I’m sure that will be effective. Enjoy your premium renewal.
You miss the point why i bring those bug report up. They had nothing to do with M833
They show that
You’re not making a point though. You cited bug reports that are still awaiting review. This doesn’t mean anything and certainly does not have anything to do with M833 already being rejected and reasons given. Did you forget what you were responding to as well because you brought up bug reports not being actioned to try to say that it doesn’t mean that it is okay as it is.
But you’re missing the fact that bug reports for M833 HAVE been actioned. They were rejected. Citing outstanding unreviewed and unrelated bug reports has absolutely nothing to do with what was being discussed.
Adding round doesn’t get them money like adding whole new premuim vehicles though. Sure it attract a few more people into them. But that about it.
Also since there already Click bait people would likely go straight for that instead of KVT. Surely they would want more people buying Click bait instead of KVT.
Making their premiums look good is a sure way to make them more appealing to customers. I’m sure Gaijin would act at a first sign of trouble and get their cash making machines back in line.
This isn’t true. Some people will buy both the KVT and premium CAS in A-10 which sits at 10.3, so they can form a lineup around that.
Since you know there is anwser to my question. It shouldn’t be hard for you to quote that to me right ?
Again How would M1 Abrams + M833 would break balance ?
Same old story Gaijin do things wrong. I point that out. That’s all.
You put the word in my mouth. I said i don’t support them adding top-tier premuim vehicles with-out any balance being adjust.
What with this red herring ? lmao
You already see the point. And i didn’t even bring up or mention “M833 bug report” one bit. So idk why you keep bringing that up as if it mean anythings
Also some report has more than years to process. The source are there. It just wait for Gaijin to made the change happen that is.
Since you know there is anwser to my question. It shouldn’t be hard for you to quote that to me right ?
Again How would M1 Abrams + M833 would break balance ?
I’ve just told you that this is a forum and therefore all the points raised are still present in their original forms for you to read at your leisure. I’m not going to repeat and cite the same things for the Nth time for you to ignore it, again. The issue of balance has been addressed countless times already, you just don’t wish to accept it because it is against your position you intend to hold.
Same old story Gaijin do things wrong. I point that out. That’s all.
So you do care what gaijin thinks. Strange that you tried to pull the “I don’t care” card for no reason.
You put the word in my mouth. I said i don’t support them adding top-tier premuim vehicles with-out any balance being adjust.
What with this red herring ? lmao
My mistake I thought you were making a related statement in response to what I had said. So you just brought up the fact that you’re not going to support them adding new premiums for no reason. I fail to see how this is relevant to the topic then and you should not have bothered to make this post.
You already see the point. And i didn’t even bring up or mention “M833 bug report” one bit. So idk why you keep bringing that up as if it mean anythings
You responded to my posts. My posts talking about M833 and bug reports to get it added. In the thread which is discussing the tangibility of M833 being added to the game. You responded citing unrelated bug reports which not related or relevant.
Also some report has more than years to process. The source are there. It just wait for Gaijin to made the change happen that is.
Yes some bug reports take longer to review than others. M833 is not amongst those however as it has been actioned already, multiple times. So not really relevant.
First as stated 774 has been being buffed over the year having it pen increase over and over. It is now almost the same as 833. Your arguments is purely disingenuous.
@MotorolaCRO you are doing the same, it obvious you are only arguing to disagree and do not have anything to support your point.
First as stated 774 has been being buffed over the year having it pen increase over and over. It is now almost the same as 833. Your arguments is purely disingenuous.
And yet, M833 has not been given to the M1. And balance reasons have been cited for the reasoning it has not been given. So clearly gaijin believe that it is not “almost the same” and will have an impact on its performance which it does not require.
My point is that M1 doesn’t need anything better than M774 because it’s a perfectly fine tank for 10.7. Still have to see a piece of evidence that contradicts this, even Gaijin is “siding” with me since they haven’t touched M1 or most of it’s contemporaries in a long, long while.
It not that hard at all to search and quote those to me.
Just stop beating around the bush.
Different matter. I care to point out what Gaijin do wrong. But i do not care or act like the end of the world if Gaijin don’t acknowledge.
That just another proof that Gaijin doesn’t alway do the right things. Why US winrate at top-tier around click-bait was bad then ?
irrelevant as above. This has nothing to do with M833 bug report you bring up… I probably should adjust quote better next time.
It just another proof that Gaijin isn’t alway act right and why i don’t take them as the indicator that things already ok.
It not that hard at all to search and quote those to me.
Just stop beating around the bush.
It’s not that hard at all to search and read those yourself.
Just stop trying to bloat this thread.
Different matter. I care to point out what Gaijin do wrong. But i do not care or act like the end of the world if Gaijin don’t acknowledge.
So you do care. Alright let’s leave it at that.
That just another proof that Gaijin doesn’t alway do the right things. Why US winrate at top-tier around click-bait was bad then ?
This response does not follow from what I said.
irrelevant as above. This has nothing to do with M833 bug report you bring up… I probably should adjust quote better next time.
Yes your response citing random unrelated outstanding bug reports is unrelated to my post regarding M833 bug reports and the reasons being given for it not being added. I have no idea why you cited them because they have absolutely no bearing on what was being discussed or this topic at all. Try to remain on-topic.
It just another proof that Gaijin isn’t alway act right and why i don’t take them as the indicator that things already ok.
Bruh. I’m telling you that i haven’t seen answer. Why you try to dodge the question ?
Ok let ask this again
“How” would M1 Abrams +M833 break the balance ?
Gaijin not taking action or reject them isn’t answer.
Because adding premuim top-tier vehicles without proper adjusting match-maker can cause team balance problem. Click-bait ruin US winrate around its BR. Another things Gaijin doesn’t do right. That is
As i said It is irrelevant to “M833 bug report” (which i didn’t bring that up nor mention about it to begin with. You can go and look at my previous post. And i keep telling you this)
I only cite those bug report to proof that Gaijin does sitting on proper bug report (that already got accepted ) for years without doing anythings.
Well, it really does depend on the last time he ran it. Was it the top dog when he did? Did it fight most of what it does now? I can say the F86/MiG 15 is fine the last time I played it, which was mostly when it was top dog at the time. Does it make it fine now?
But to be fair, your counterpoint has been “Wah, my Russians would have a harder time” as if they can’t literally one tap it through the entire front at 2km out…
Well, it really does depend on the last time he ran it. Was it the top dog when he did? Did it fight most of what it does now? I can say the F86/MiG 15 is fine the last time I played it, which was mostly when it was top dog at the time. Does it make it fine now?
He already said elsewhere in this thread or another that he had been playing it a few months ago, same as with necrons. You and dinfire both just handwaved it anyway and seemingly forgot about it. Even though nothing has effectively changed in that time.
We can all take solace in the fact that none of this matters as long as the statistics gaijin have stipulate that the M1 is performing fine where it is, as it is.
And a lot has changed in penetration calculations and internals since any of those tanks were added (speaking of, there was a whole 2 years between the M1 and the next generation of tanks yet the M1 is the only one lacking a better round like every other nation).
Any T-series player worth their salt knows to just shoot the turret cheek of the M1 because the 3BM42 can penetrate that at +2km out. With most fights in game FAR close than that, there’s 0 point in not doing that.
And again, you say your experience and what was that? Down tiers? Your tier? When? That’s good for you but statistically, it is literally in the bottom third of worst performing MBT at and around that Battle Rating.