Now With the M1 being Brought to 10.7, Can We Finally Receive M833?

It’s not but okay bud you have an illustrated anything besides saying “nuh-uh” which is the same thing the devs did to the DU hull

What do you mean, “it’s not”? It is quite literally his opinion. He is entitled to it but that does not make it correct, nor does it mean it will happen.

I and others have made many points throughout the thread and you are welcome to refresh your memory of what was said. Furthermore, as soon as you are able to provide evidence for the DU hulls a bug report will be accepted for it. This has been covered extensively by the technical moderators in the US thread regarding that separate topic.

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It’s the same point reiterated by a half dozen people that the US mains’ suggestions are unrealistic or unnecessary. Or as some put it, “handholding whiny losers”, if I didn’t miss the inference from your fellow naysayers.

Gameplay experience proves this is incorrect.

I’m not sorry for making it clear, but I am sorry that you all feel so threatened by the suggestion.

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Nope I made a bad post right there you’re right

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I played 15 matches in 3 different vehicles over 24 hours and showed the facts of it since the new BR update.

And? Gaijin don’t balance vehicles based on “Dinfires performance in 3 vehicles over 15 matches in 24 hours”. Unless they’ve changed their approach since the last balance update and I missed the memo.

You can’t do that. Thus, your claim to facts is merely an opinion without even subjective experience to back it up.

Hello? You didn’t actually disprove anything I said in my last statement. Me having experience in the M1 has no consequences on gaijins balancing of the M1 based on its performance, aside from those of them that I kill while playing against them currently. It is also a fact that you are presenting your opinion. It is also a fact that others have presented their opposing opinion. It is also a fact that people have said why it is unlikely to happen. And it is a fact that it has not happened.

The others who have backed you up have done so with a plethora of personal insults and derogatory remarks that make me question their motivation.

There have been plenty of insults and derogatory comments from the US main side too, including yourself. There have also been people on both sides who have been very civil. Moot point.

I did disprove it. The suggestion makes sense for the new meta in top tier.

And if I’m being blatantly honest, I’m not sorry for insulting people who insulted me first.

No, you didn’t. But you’re welcome to believe whatever you want.

And if I’m being blatantly honest, I’m not sorry for insulting people who insulted me first.

Ah so it doesn’t matter if people insult now or perceive insults? Ok.

The m1 IP is at 11 and gets both m900 and 833 with the same reload m833 has 395mm pen point blank m774 has 372 m900 has 522mm of pen why would the normal m1 go to the same battle rating as the IP m1 with both worse armor and a worse round and the same reload

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There have been multiple occasions where vehicles inhabit the same BR whilst one is superior. It just depends on what gaijins statistics are. Also occurs due in part to compression.

For example chieftain mk 3/5.

And again back to the “nuh uh”.

You’ve claimed I was screaming into the void, when my suggestion has been heard by many and agreed to by many.

I have been as reasonable as possible from the start, and your first response was “No.”

It has stayed “No.” even though you don’t even grind the US line.

Even though you aren’t Gaijin the company or even a representative of the company.

Now, I believe that we agreed that since I can’t block you easily, I can ignore you.

The M833 round isn’t some god-tier round that will change the meta of the 10.7 line-ups. So adding it is perfectly reasonable.

Love the mk 3/5 🤣 and im all for more decompression even though I know it’s not going to come anytime soon

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11.3 now. Remember, BR update.

It meets 12.0 top tier Leopard2A7V and T80BVM.

For those with only 833, it’s the 774 all over again.

The M900 provides… well, guess what, parity.

But you gotta grind for it.

It isn’t a “nuh uh”. You’re entitled to your opinion. It’s only that though. Just as I am and everybody else is.

You’ve claimed I was screaming into the void, when my suggestion has been heard by many and agreed to by many.

And there have been many that came in to disagree and have disagreed in the past. Once again, most people are not opposed to M833 being added but also express the valid sentiment that it is likely to move up in BR if it does. That includes people that play it and do well in it and don’t want to see it get moved up.

I’m going to have to stop here with you because I’m honestly tired of having to repeat the same things over and over because you’re not listening, and given the way you acted in DMs and some more information I know that you won’t change your opinion regardless.

You’re entitled to it, doesn’t make it right. Enjoy and I’ll be back to check-up with you after the next balance pass.

It’s been a while since I’ve played the Abrams, but when I was playing it I remember that it was a VERY fun tank, but not that good, the round is bad enough to get eaten a lot by very random stuff and the drivers port of T-72s can reliably tank it.
But really if M833 is only barely better than the round it has now, what’s with all the fuss about it?
The round it has now is laughably bad when compared to every other MBT at the same BR while never being better only equal.

If you have a have a good reason to not add it I really want to know, because as of now I don’t see one.
(edit: I’m just gonna toss this in here, the round it has now is laughable because of the horrendous damage compared to other rounds while also having worse pen)

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Agreed, fantastic tanks that a lot of people give a bad rap in my opinion. They may not be meta defining but they are very good when played well. A great example for your question though given the Mk5 as you know is outright superior to the Mk3. Yet they both inhabit 8.7.

It’s just the way their balancing via statistics works out. With actual decompression things may improve in the future.

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Reasons have been stated throughout the thread by various people. Have a read.

I don’t have time to read through 400 + messages just to pinpoint 1 or 2 things said by you specifically for the chance there’s a good argument in one of them.
(I pressed enter by accident)

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If you have an actually good argument then it shouldn’t be hard to say it again.

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The short and skinny of it is, the naysayers don’t want it. Or they want it to have a BR increase from jump because they think it will destabilize the balance of 10.7.

I’ve heard reasons of:

“It’s handholding.”
“It’s a placebo.”
"The M1 is great as it is, a buff is unnecessary.’

All which I’ve succinctly refuted.

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I was going off the wiki it still said it was 11

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All good. I suppose someone in the Wiki needs to be doing more updates.

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