Now that the Strela is BR 9.7

The Ozelot has 20G missiles? I wish. At the moment they are at 13G, and likely to stay that way.
And the PGZ04A has IRST track, just like the Ozelot and the US Chapperal and the Typ 93 and the Machbet .

The Ozelot (and Machbet) are the only one that do not have stock proxy fuses. US Chapperal, PGZ04A, SANTAL, Typ 93 (and Strela) all have proxy fuses stock.

It literally does not have a radar, it has an IRST search with less range than the search radars of the other SPAAs.
And as already said, it is the only vehicle (with the Machbet) that doesn’t get proxy fuses as stock rounds.

and dead with 1 .50cal shot. It also doesn’t have any means of self protection, like a MG3 or a .50cal or a 20mm.

Optical tracking would be a bettee argument if gaijin didnt make like 90%+ of matches cloudy

Ngl, i prefer IRST over radar. Jets dont get a warning.

I say give the strela the passive radar they have modeled on it and move it up further

Keeping these SAMs at 9.3 is what balances Jets from doing CAS. It suppose to stop CAS that the 8.3 SPAAG cannot reach. So moving them up to 9.7 as well is a bad idea and they are not equal to a Strela. If anything, Strela should be at 10.0 due to being the 2nd dominant SAM behind the Type 81 C.

The discussion at hand is the Strela. We’re comparing all vehicles here to the Strela. The PGZ04A is a terrible vehicle whose only redeeming factor is direct fire guns.

Only the Ozelot has ACQ radar.

It has ACQ radar.

All SPAAs mentioned are easily killed. The Ozelot can effectively hide.

It does not. If it has, please show it to me.
It has only IRST Track, like I said before.
Which is NOT ACQ radar.

The Strela has a tracking radar.

Yeah, no other IR SAM SPAAs have 20G missiles, so the Strela goes up, and the Ozelot should go down to 9.3 to bring into line with the others.

The Ozelot unlike the others (excluding the PGZ04A which has worse missiles and worse radar) has ACQ radar.

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  1. This is IRST Search module, not Radar as it clearly says under “type”

  2. The keybind is, as it says, for Radar and IRST LOCK, which means it is for locking on to a target either with a Tracking Radar, like the Gepard has, or with IRST Track, like the Ozelot and the other IR SAM SPAAs have. The new Vilkas and the Puma and other light tanks like the Bradley also have IRST Track.
    You can see it when you hover over the gunners sight.

EDIT: the keybind is to switch targets already aquired by the radar or the IRST seach module. My point still stands

Should be even higher, 10.3 minimum in my opinion.

You don’t have a point. Vamilad is pointing out that the Ozelots Search IRST is integrated with IRST Track; you can “lock” a target being tracked by IRST Search in 3rd person. Most other SPAAs have to lock through the gunsight when using IRST Track. IRST Search is also passive, it doesn’t cause RWR warnings for obvious reasons meaning there’s no loss to leaving it on and having much greater awareness than SPAAs like Type 93 that have to visually spot without assistance.

Ozelot is fine, vastly better than Type 93 and Imp.Chap in most cases, stop turning this into a Germany Suffers thread.

Radar doesn’t really matter with these. They’re IR missiles.

Being able to find the target to lock the IR missile is what matters. It’s what makes the Ozelot worthy of 9.7 rather than 9.3

It’s too easy to acquire and then fire its missiles compared to the other vehicles mentioned. Missile effectiveness be damned.

The thing that makes the Strela so good is that it has 20G missiles and its IR modes let it lock vehicles much further away than normal, especially helicopters.

SPAA at this entire BR range is horribly balanced, but the Strela was under BR’d, the Ozelot doesn’t need to go down in BR, the entire bracket needs to be decompressed.

I’m a big boy, I can do that all by myself.

It doesn’t look straight up and any other angle you will see them before they can do anything anyway if you’re paying attention. I’m not saying an IRST search isn’t helpful sometimes but it doesn’t warrant 9.7 It should be 9.3 with the current BRs.

No? Missile effectiveness is what controls whether you actually kill someone or not. It is TRIVIAL to dodge a stinger in its current state and they can’t even lock past 3km on helicopters, and that’s the ones without thermal stealth.

Yeah nah. 8.7 has many weapons that outrange all SPAA besides VEAK/M247

With flares.

Yes, CAS is unbalanced due to the split nature of BRs (air / ground).

No? Flares don’t even impact the stinger in 9/10 cases. You don’t know very much about what you speak of.

10.3 seems a bit much, but I fully support it going to 10.0. If the Type 81 (C) moved from 10.0 to 11.0, the Strela-10M2 can move from 9.3 to 10.0.

Type 81 moved to 11.0 a while ago, with the Jan BR changes.

Here:

“Let’s note two vehicles, the Type 81 (C) and AGS. The Type 81 (C) will be increased from 10.0 to 11.0 Battle Rating. This is because at the moment, in terms of effectiveness, this vehicle is the undisputed leader amongst all air defense systems and effectively fights against aircraft both at a Battle Rating of 10.0 and at 11.0 and higher. As the AGS is going up from 10.3 to 11.0, this tank will be given the M833 shell.”

(From the “Planned Jan BR changes”)

Yes, they have IRCCM. That doesn’t mean they’re completely immune to flares, that means you need to appropriately dodge while using flares. Where as without flares you’re screwed.

No? Dodging is done in even korean jets very easily.