Interested to see which path you take, are you going to wide low alt flank combat or BVR combat once you spade it cause both work quite well surprisingly, BVR is definitely my personal preferred method only downside is unless you start being really conservative over living you almost always end up dead, however its pretty easy to guarantee 2-3 kills or more a match, not sure if that’s just how the vehicle is or if teammates my have an affect on the survivability part though?
I normally play passive in F-15C’s, but in this one I’m a tad bit more aggressive because of the extra chaff. BVR isn’t going to be consistent in this because of low acceleration and pretty much half of your own team is doing the same thing in a faster platform anyways so I thought it best to focus more on the mid to late game by simply surviving the initial missile jousts in a game and then putting myself in a favourable position in the map with enough distance from everyone else to sneak up on them and 9M from above or AIM-120A well within the MAR.
Teammates are hit or miss for me. Most games I end up being the last person alive because everyone somehow forgets how to notch in the first couple of minutes in a game and then I’m left to face the swarm of Su-30SMs firing everything at me. I feel it’s best to not rely on your teammates in this and expect the team to evaporate and then just focus on getting at least 2 kills. That, for me, is a good game in this.
ah I see, your definitely not wrong after defending 1 or 2 early missiles I tend to lose all my speed and it takes a century to get back to speed. Your strategy is probably the most optimal at the moment for it, plus when it hopefully eventually gets EPAWSS, flight model buff and the unlikely but possible MRML it would be really affective with that style of combat as well.
Sadly even though I love the QOL the BOL pods and AESA radar bring, for BVR preferring players like me, the F15E is actually a more worthy f15 for the 14.3 BR and yet its 14.0 lol, like switching out the extra 400ish countermeasures and AESA for one of if not the Best mechanical radars in game, and its almost god tier acceleration it just does better for me. For me as much as I love the regular f15 this just has me excited for the EX or Late E as it would be every QOL change the C GE has but on a platform that can take advantage of war thunders META’s
Also as you pointed out teammates do seem to be really inconsistent recently especially for US I swear they aren’t normally this bad right, like I’ve been killed by the most friendly fire shots recently while in both the F-15c GE and E then any other major update window.
Also personal sidenote they are at least slowly fixing little bugs with the thing for sim at least my report on the lack of the thermal viewer on the large MFD has been approve and should come in next update, so happy to see that. been waiting on that since you cant see the NTCR in the cockpit unless I’m some how blind.
Last thing, Jesus Christ wtf are those rafale stats, you are the rafale player people talk about when they point to it insanity of it as an instant win button, like I know its just a large number of matches but goddamn that’s still really impressive.
Anyone can walk into good stats with the rafale…
Second most baby plane after release grippy imo. Rafale is just so OP
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yeah rafale too op
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Not really. There are sadly people who exist who are somehow performing negatively in it despite everything. Not a notable minority, but they do exist. The vast majority of players (including myself sometimes) just fly straight into the furball and MICA everything on sight with high success. Until the meta of the game changes ie short range engagements, the MICA will continue to dominate no matter what gets added to the game
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lol your not wrong, problem is that even the players that are babied have so little comprehension on how to play they might now go from 1-2 kills every 5 matches to 3-5 kill every couple matches , his stats were consistently good over 1000 games and was why its actually impressive.
Definitely is still the most babied plane, love how they nerfed the BOL and flight model of the Gripen after it started performing too well in a month, while the rafale has gone nearly unchecked outside of when a bad player run face first into a orbital AMRAAM or r77-1, I’m guessing those player are the ones keeping its stats low enough to avoid a nerf lol.
THEY didn’t nerf the Gripen. 3 historical reports were actioned on.
Players caused the Gripen’s changes, not Gaijin.
Just as players caused the positive changes to Typhoon; and negative & positive changes to Rafale.
Many of us caused positive changes to F-15C/J/JM/BazM due to our historical reports.
im enjoying the f15GE its certainly not overpowered where you can just turn off your brain and play but the awareness is just so much better and really helpful + the way better tws than the E it makes datalinking the missiles a guaranteed hit unless they are lucky or on the deck. the main issue i have with it is the fact it bleeds energy so quick i mean like delta canard quick anything sub mach 1.3 and it will just turn 70 degrees and you drop to 400 knots. could it fit motr amraams? sure does it need it? for 14.3 maybe it may be dead on arrival but it certainly isnt bad imo
amraam buff would make it much more competitive against the su30 and rafale
Yeah their was one guy who kept saying it was like the most abhorrent thing ever despite not even buying it or playing it yet, only sucky thing was the stock grind and its painful speed bleed when going cold then notching.
Personally its a decent f15, mechanical radars were already extremely good for the US so it is a buff but I’d say its more or less a QOL change, less needing to fiddle with resetting the radar scan angle, only issue I had was the AESA was so good at detecting targets outside of the ghosting bugs I would have to either manually use the cursor to click a jet or spam my switch target button, cause once there is like 13 missiles in the air its really hard to target an actual jet they need to add a filter mechanic at least for jets that have NTCR meaning its hard to get one or two more shots of as you begin to pull cold.
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PSA: If you’re a top tier player, I suggest manually selecting targets on radar. I used to do it the other way long ago but that was a very finicky thing, plus manually selecting brings a touch of realism to it and allows you to shoot a “keep them busy” missile at someone far behind the targets flying at you if you’re outnumbered etc (there are more scenarios where this is useful, but this is the one where it is most useful for me, especially in Sim)
Fully agree Manual targeting/ cyclic targeting its the better system I use it for when I’m playing VR. the problem is when using a 60% keyboard I simply don’t have enough places to key bind with it to feel either more efficient or comfortable than just using the cursor. I’m planning on switching back to a 100% when this one breaks so when that happens I’ll definitely switch to it again.
To be fair there’s probably other users who have more efficient control for themselves and might be able to fit it sadly, I cannot ):
Its not that its a bad aircraft all around, its that its not 14.3 material, and it simply isn’t in its current state. Its a 14.0 at best.
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That is exactly the problem. Besides the EFT with the suffering captor, Both Rafale/Su-30 can be played off brain with genuinely vague positioning.
Having to play a plane like you’re in a competitive tournament to make it work is simply not fair and I bet to say, unfun. End of story.
You people can get neutral/positive KD ratios with the F-15C GE and so I got a positive KD with the Me 262 A-1a, does it make the Messerschmitt a good, enjoyable plane? No.
So the Golden Eagle.
Add the fact Statshark data about november should drop imminently with the Golden Eagle performance, and it’ll just show the glaring gaslight has been around the plane “being good” for almost a month now.
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You are indeed enjoying the aircraft.
And it’s your average performance as well, which is rather good performance across the board.
Adding dual plane agility is necessary at this point for sure.
Apparently wanting to buff AIM-120Cs is offensive to some.
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i agree though i have to say i dont play like its a competitive tournament its just being aware and knowing the enemies more or less. i often pre notch,before i get a rwr warning unlike everyone else which turns a hard 90 degrees as soon as the receiver goes off.
the hardest part for the GE imo is managing the energy if your sub mach 1.3 any turn is going to bleed your speed to near nothing given your above 20,000ft but thats still true below that. which is something the nerfed f15E shines at, it can regain that speed relatively quickly which the same cant be said for the C and GE
I decided to C+P a reply that I posted on the ongoing “Line of Contact” dev server category, the premise is exactly the same, so in case you don’t get to reach this topic before the dev server category closes, you won’t miss anything anyway.
Yapping alert. TLDR: It's over boys, they're not adding anything else to the GE trash due to sweats.
First up, Startshark released new stats, showing interesting trends about November. One of which is the F-15C GE performance on its first half month of performance.
Some disingenuous individuals may say: “But Pyro, that’s some good numbers, the plane’s good.” And they might have a point, but first, check out the F/A-18C Late’s release performance back in March.
That’s triple the amount of games on release for a tenth of a difference in Kills per Death. It’s obvious there was more people playing the F/A-18C Late (obviously due to sheer novelty factor back in the day), including less skilled players than on the F-15C Golden Eagle that, apparently, has found a niche of skilled players, albeit lots of people underperform in it as far as the data I have gathered throughout this last three weeks.
A feasible counterargument may be: “B-but the Golden Eagle had less days to be played, that’s why it had less games played, right?”
Plain wrong. The Hornet was released with Hornet’s sting on March 18th, 2025., while the Golden Eagle was released on November 11th, 2025, having effectively more days during its respective month to be played by the playerbase.
In conclusion, the plane is cooked by stat farming (overepresenting good performance) and sweats. Its time to wait for the AESA F-15E or the F-15EX.
The F-15C Golden Eagle is officially done.
As a side note I’m leaving exclusively for this topic, this plane was a victim of the playerbase’s Gaussian function: both the best and the most clueless ones grinded it, and the good ones overrepresented the stats of the bad ones.
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Worst rank 8 us winrate. Literally no one is playing it either 250k is pathetic for a new top tier us aircraft.
F/a18c on release btw
near 1KpD = good enough for Gaijin. Winrates doesn’t matter that much for ARB/balancing purposes.
The plane’s cooked beyond its winrate. Check the reasoning I left above your reply :)