Carousel or not, the sheer kinetic power of the round would make a minced meat out of anything inside a tank if it penetrates the side where the armor is weak and the dart retains its kinetic power but somehow thats probably russian bias aswell. I just dont get some people where they get their ideas from, do they even play the game?
Being bad is still more experience than none at all though, and you have none.
try fighting against that in a heavy plane
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True, then there’s Pyrom, Wyvern, etc.
If there’s no ammo in the hull nothing else is going to happen(the driver could die and a few crew members in the turret)
Leopard 2A4 doesnt have spall liner and as I have said before leopard has a lot of empty space compared to soviet tanks. Since you are shooting the side, the round wont generate enough spall to one shot it. It will generate even less if you are facing tanks that have spall liners.
Not exactly how I would put my argument.
For me it is more a case of seeing how weak the USSR tech tree is, and also know that it needs more tools in it’s lineup.
Same time, I do not want the other nations I play with to be held back purposely to make another nation playable, especially if the same treatment is not applied equally to other suffering tech trees.
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Ussr needs better ifv/light tanks but gaijin doesnt know what it needs
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I see a bunch of name calling on this thread, if we can keep it civil and get actual answers that would be great. No need to demean each other and result to name calling.
EDIT : No need to get political either.
Love all round.
The T-72 autocannon thing. Terminator I think.
Great 11.3 option.
The radar is useless in this case. AIM-7s are absolutely garbage. It can’t even track a simple target.
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more BTRs at lower BRs would be great
Just had a very core of Russian Bias…2S28 vs LAV-AD. I was in the 2S28 bothj darts and HE didnt do JACK SHIT to the LAV and of he nuked me with the first 2 rockets. VERY MUCH RUSSIAN BIAS GAIJIN PLS NERF THIS SHIT!
The user in question was talking about personal statistics.
You’re looking at singular vehicle statistics.
I’m talking about US win rate as a whole.
There’s 3 different things here.
TS can get really weird.
Germany’s uprising started with PSO’s introduction, they gained 10%+ WRs in a very short period. Also, USSR started losing WRs and total battles played while totally opposite happened to Germany. Meanwhile, US’ numbers remained unchanged.
Is PSO so strong of a vehicle to cause a massive shift like that ? Highly unlikely.
Is PSO enough to intrigue veterans to try it out and abandon previously meta vehicles ? Possible.
In my opinion population shift caused all of this, veterans first got interested in PSO and after that T-90M, 2A7V, 122B+ came around and veterans were eager to try them out, meanwhile US got yet another copy/paste vehicle with zero new features and people got bored of it.
I do think M1A2s are inferior to vehicles listed above, but do I think they are that inferior to have < 40% WRs ? No.
Judging how good something is based on it’s WRs is flawed. Gaijin can’t know how skilled your average 10.0 US or Sweden player will be, but they’re still basing the BR changes mostly on that. This results in most minor nations having some of their tanks a notch too high, simply because those nations have way less beginners that have miserable stats, so it looks like their tanks are “better”.
After all, players win games, not vehicles.
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French vehicles yes. France as a nation, no. French vehicles show up under the US tab on TS. You don’t need to have confidence in me or anything, just visit Thunderskill and check for yourself.
This is assuming that all or most players on TS only play one nation, which is obviously untrue. Good players, meta-focused players, stat padders etc, will tend to go back and forth between trees depending on when stufff is added and where, what is nerfed or buffed, compressed or decompressed, etc etc. Different players play diffferent parts of the game at different times.
Oh, I know. Though I still wonder if there’s a way to approach this from the outside in a way that makes sense statistically. After all, while we lack data, the matches are public.
Indeed.
And since the PSO is apparently not exactly a curbstomper (but I haven’t played it myself so I don’t know), I think that might well reflect an influx of veteran players who returned to the German tree in order to spade it, as you’ve said.
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No it isn’t, and I’m not sure how you came to that conclusion. Players on Thunderskill playing more than one nation just reinforces my point that it cannot be a confounder.
You’re saying the reason the US has low win rates on Thunderskill is that it is a biased sample, and that it is skewed towards better players. If those better players have a worse win rate with the US, why would “less meta focused players” perform any better? The absolute values of winrate aren’t important, it’s the relative distribution between nations that will be somewhat constant for players regardless of skill. The lower skilled players who aren’t accessing TS are going to have a similar distribution of win rates across nations, just at a lower absolute %.
In other words, the “biased” sample that is TS, isn’t what causes the winrate to be lower for US vehicles. It’s genuinely lower in WT.
The easy solution for RB would be to make teams all vs all, so that both teams on average end up with the same number of one-death-leavers/low level players, and equal amounts of higher skilled players on meta nations. I used to think the reason they didn’t allow this was because they wanted historical matchmaking, but these days there is nothing remotely historical about it. It feels like just a random selection of nations on each side. If you’re playing a major nation there’s also a good chance you’ll be playing against your nation too. At that point, why not just make it all v all for every match?
Same as Sweden.
PSO is basically worse vehicle overall than 2A6, so it’s far from being a curb stomper performance wise.
I have no other explanation for such a big change that came literally out of nowhere, it must be the skilled players flocking from other countries to Germany to research and spade PSO, then staying where they are to do the same thing but with 2A7V and then enjoy some meta-vehicle gameplay along the way.
The main bias in WT is against two nations. UK and France.
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This kind of arguement confuses me. Everytime it is brought uo for this topic it goes as follows
A: you dont play USSR so of course you dont know what you are talking about.
B: You play a lot of USSR and you do it because of the bias.
Sort of a lose/lose situation.
My favorite was when I looked on TS and it said that the javelin had an 80% wine rate
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