A single player’s stats are irrelevant to overall game balance. You also do not have a large amount of battles on those vehicles, assuming they are even recently played.
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I state that for me, 11.0 US is a nuke farm. A guy calls this statement a lie, I prove it. What’s the point of your post?
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Because you don’t need to be russian to be a shill for them…
Are you ULQ in disguise?
- I’m not a good ground player, and I happily admit that to anyone. But I’ve played the vehicles and know how they relate to each other. That’s more than you can say.
- Pointing at the individual stats from one person is textbook cherry picking. I’m sure you can find stats from one player to support any conclusion.
- I use the bmp2m and 2s38 at 11.7+, and I also regularly J out as soon as I have enough SP to get into CAS. Just another reason why pointing to the stats from one person is a stupid idea. Even GJN isn’t that bad - they use population based stats for balancing.
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Is this really an appropriate response in this situation?
Yes, but you claim that since I’ve not played the majority of russian vehicles, I shouldn’t talk about them.
I point out that you’re garbage in RB with russian vehicles, should you be commenting on them then?
Imagine me slowly clapping my hands as this absolutely destroys my “tu quoque russian propaganda”, making up excuses is not solving your problem of hypocrisy.
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For sampling to be a confounder of the nation win rates, you would have to be sampling better players from certain nations versus others. You’re basically suggesting that the only bad players who use thunder skill happen to play USA. I don’t think there is any good basis for that assumption, but feel free to explain why you feel differently.
I’m pretty sure French vehicles are on TS too, so you’re not exactly inspiring confidence.
The only people can do this is GJN, because they are the only ones with enough info to properly account for the matchmaker in their statistical analysis. This, along with the total lack of transparency from GJN regarding information, makes a perfect environment for having bias in the game which can’t be proved/disproved by the players.
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Good job totally dodging the point. I’ve played UK, US, and Russia at top tier. Even as a bad player, I have more experience than you.
Not really sure what you’re trying to say here. How exactly am I being a hypocrite?
I presumed in your original comment that you were discussing the general strength of US rather than boasting about irrelevant statistics. My apologies for assuming that you were contributing towards this thread.
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Good players that are actually looked up in TS can still have bad WRs if they’re being paired with a bunch of Click-Bait lvl 0 players every single game. This is a 16v16 game mode, so your good individual performance won’t be enough to carry yourself to a win in most cases.
Just take a look at SEP data on TS, it has 10k battles, 1.82 KPB and 1.58 K/D with 42% WR.
Meanwhile, something like PSO has 14k battles, 1.77 KPB and 1.84 K/D with 66% WR.
Those KPB and K/D stats are way too similar for a 20%+ difference in WRs. Looks like players on TS have no issues getting things done in their US vehicles, it’s just the fact their teams that are godawful and winning with a bunch of premium warriors isn’t that easy.
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I have a solution for all your problems. You hop into a combat ready Leopard of your choice, we close the hatch and shoot at you with 3BM42 or 3BM60. If you survive you proved your point if not than you prove our points. You gotta be joking dude. What Russian Bias? Leopards CONSTANTLY survive multiple shots and you need to cherry pick its crew to kill it meanwhile he blasts EVERY Russian vehicle in a single shot roughly 85% of the time. Those glass cannon thingys like Rooikat, Wolfpack and whatever else there is surviving a dart to the face and keeps driving and killing? And than it oneshots me to the side in a T-72 80 or 90 doesnt matter. How is that all fair?
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Thunderskill is not a proof of anything because of biased sample.
You dont have any proofs to prove that 11.0 US is a Nuke farm
You can die to side shots in any tank
Yes but you cant survive as many sideshots as Leopards do…not even Abrams survives that much but yet here we are talking about Russian bias
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I agree, but their point was that TS is a biased sample and that is what is causing the win rate differential. Anyone literate in stats knows for something to confound a relationship like that, it has to be associated with both variables (player nation and win rate). I don’t think there is any good basis for this assumption.
I agree with you that the US win rate is tanked by premium/squadron vehicles. I also think the matchmaker is not fair enough in how it determines teams. I would personally prefer a system with mixed all v all battles, so that it’s one less variable effecting win rates.
Ultimately I don’t think win rate is even that useful a metric, for reasons you described. A tank can be OP but have substandard win rates due to the matchmaker. We need more granular data about points/assists/captures to draw any real conclusions.
This guy just tried to dismiss me because my stats in the 2s38 and bmp2m are bad. A sample size of one is good enough to dismiss others, but a sample size of hundreds of thousands isn’t good enough to disprove them 🙄
Leopard is significantly larger than most soviet mbts. So it’s harder to one shot it. Now with the addition of spall liners it’s even harder and Abrams just dies to anything.
Because of carousel autoloader
This is why gaijin should add a separate match maker for low level(below 40) premium players.
Leopard 2A4 (123 pzblztl whatever) is the first where the Leopards godly survivability comes into play. If someone thinks its fine to survive a side shot multiple times I suggest getting into one, sit wherever and get shot at. Spall liners dont stop the kinetic power of the round especially from the side where it has to go through much less armor than the front. Every Russian tank blows up first shot much more often than anything western (talking about later models of tanks, not T-28) but somehow penetrating a western tank front to back damages only like a radiator or the engine and stuff). Same with glass cannons, Vilkas and stuff that just refuses to die and keeps on shooting its pew pew until your gun is dead and than you are dead aswell.
Yet Igla is the worst performing MANPAD in War Thunder so your quote is wrong.
We know that M1A2 non-SEP didn’t have DU in hull, which means that unless mass increases significantly [more than 1 ton] SEP & SEP2 also lack DU in the hull.
SEP3 is known to have DU in the hull and its mass increase SHOWS that as it increases like 1 - 2 tons from the armor changes alone.
Not sure why you hate XP-50 so much. Who cares that XP-50 got all of the things it would’ve had if it progressed beyond prototype?
Also weird of you to claim that Leopard 2s are given bias just cause they’re the best MBTs in War Thunder.
@apb1999
Su-27 has R-73s which are worse than AIM-9Ms and AAM-3s in IRCCM.
F-15 has a superior radar to Su-27 as it has smaller notching sector.
F-15 is faster than Su-27 while being far more maneuverable.
Gripen is the best plane in War Thunder 2nd to none.
Mirage 4000 is the 2nd best plane in War Thunder.
Both Gripen and Mirage 4000 handhold more than every other jet, I know this cause I play them.
I’m willing to bet you played none of the aircraft you mentioned.
@Just_Baron
Combining all 3 Strv 122s into 2nd place, T-90M is 3rd for me.
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