Huh. What do yah know, I saw that picture and i Honestly thought it was the TTD’s turret stripped down.
Very similar design language that is for sure.
Shame this turret hasn’t found use… looks quite chunky.
Once you look at things like mantlet and periscopes, you can see it is not a ttd
Doing more research here and i am seeing a few places saying that IS a Stripped down TTD turret. But it certainly isn’t one.
Probably where my confusion came from
I must say… its quite odd that a country would go through all that effort to design a brand new turret for a tank built in 1948, and not make a new hull to go with it, or atleast improve the composite package the hull received.
That is one thing i have never quite understood about the Olifants, the protection is just kinda… All over the place, the massive gaps in the composite on the turret of the MK1B and Mk2 are especially noticeable.
But well i guess when you are trying to squeeze as much life as you can out of what is basically a WW2 Era MBT. you do what you can.
Money
Fair.
But, i feel like there was more they could have done to the MK2 as it ended up being built, there was nothing stopping them from extended the composite package further down to cover the turret ring and such.
The Hull protection wouldn’t play in as much if Gaijin would MODEL the thing correctly with the Frontal Ammunition rack being filled in by a Fuel tank.
From what i can find most of the Olifants past the Original Mk1’s have never used the big frontal hull racks, as they wanted to extend the range of the tanks as much as they could, so they filled in that entire space with Fuel, and made use of the floor racks, and constructed new Racks around against the hulls sides next to the Turret basket.
the Swedes did a Similar thing to their later Centurions, and the Israelis. Both of which the South African’s copied to develop the Olifants so.
Also for L/71 with 1050m/s.
8,8/5,25 cm Pfeilgeschoss (APHEDSFS) 8,4/7,9 kg 0,8 kg Np.10 830-840m/s 187-190mm/10m
(I have it also in HD, but too big to upload)
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Pls gaijin even with nerfed irccm
@Smin1080p_WT pls do u know anything about it?
Is there any chance it will come in the upcoming update?
There is like 5-6 platform that can take this missile
Money and potential opponents (Before the collapse of the USSR)
In addition, from 1990 to 2007, the Aorta program was carried out to replace the Olifants and, in parallel, a program to modernize these tanks.
The first proposal was first frozen and then cancelled (Leo 2A4, Challenger 2E and Leclerc participated). The second proposal was made partially (Mk.1B), since there is no need for a complete modernization
T5-52 is Denel’s latest 155 mm self propelled artillery. This is just a 105 mm option as it makes for a lighter cheaper vehicle.
There is not much left in terms of tanks I can think of a modernised t-72, older centurions, some copy paste Shermans and at a stretch a 120mm TTD.
ifvs and sams are what I’m excited for.
140mm TTD you mean… Or well both? IDK.
If Gaijin ever gets around to adding the BIG bore MBTs, the 140mm TTD deserves a spot alongside the Thumper and Leopard 2 (140)
Gun was never made unlike the 120mm likely related to Israeli development of 140mm which little is known.
Question is tho… Which leopard 2 140 should we get? the earlier Autoloaded Prototype? Or the later Panzer 87, the Modified 2A4 one?
The South African 120 and 140 were going to use the same breaches, the idea was that they could just swap the barrel over to the 140mm version when ever the time came that they needed that extra power. Much like the American 140mm gun, it was just a barrel swap away from becoming a 120mm gun.
So the Theory was already there.
I personally would rather keep the Swiss vehicles in an independent Alpine tree, so I think that the EMBT ADT140 would make for a good large-calibre autoloading MBT, with the German Leopard 2 140 as a lower tier alternative.
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I think the Leopard 2 A-RC 3.0 would be a better choice, its a little more Standard in its it design than the ADT140. Similar concepts, But the A-RC is a bit less overboard.
Would this be one of the first APFSDS shells? And what else is known of its history?
To me, sadly nothing more. But it isnt even the first. For the 24 cm L/34 coastal gun they also made aphedsfs in 1940.
Well admittedly we’re still waiting to see it with a 140mm, I recall it being an advertised option