I was referring to mbts here I’m definitely keen for a LRF G6 with higher RoF
Well, that’s just wrong, FV4211 (Initially the programme was called Chieftain Mk.5/2 to try and hide the project) was a intended to be an interim MBT to bridge the gap between Chieftain and a future more advanced MBT, while reusing as many parts as possible and Chobham armour. The project started in 1969, produced a functioning prototype in '71, and was cancelled in '72 when the UK entered the FMBT programme with Germany.
FV4211 was a completely new design, the hull and turret was all Aluminium as a weight reduction measure to enable the L60 to have some hope of moving the thing, with Chobham providing the vast majority of protection. There is one surviving prototype which was fitted with Chobham and used for automotive trials, and now resides at Bovington. It was shown off to both the XM1 and Leo 2 teams and heavily influenced the development of both.
These are all proposals for FV4211’s Chobham layout, the 1st layout was eventually selected off the top of my head.
You go google Chobham armor Chieftain and that is the first result man, IDK what you want me to do.
Its still basically just a Chieftain with changes.
its the same size, same gun, same drivetrain, same everything.
Its still the bones of a Chieftain.
MOST places, even the TANK MUSEUM call it a Chieftain.
Well, we still haven’t got Vickers mk.4 series.
Omani Challenger 2.
Jordanian mods.
that makes me feel kind of sick, its just wrong
You literally called it a Chieftain upgrade, it’s not.
It’s the same sort of technologal leap between a Chieftain and a CR1
They where talking about South African MBTs
Rafale C F3-R already in france tech tree, but no Rafale B and Rafale M
(Rafale LF1, F1 Early & Late, F2.2, F3.2, F4.1 and F4.2)
F-CK-1A (pre MLU) before Mirage 2000-5Ei and J-10A
But I’m not sure battle rating 13.0 or 13.3
I mean, it is a Chieftain upgrade, and so is the CR1. If for whatever reason the CR1 itself never made it past the proposal/prototype stage, we’d probably call it a failed chieftain upgrade program
It would make no sense to put this as a premium, respectfully.
I found a French MBT with a 140mm gun to go with these two.
The French Leclerc T4 “Terminateur”



some rapidfire mounted on a truck
Could be useful as a french SPAA at 9.0, filling the gap netween AMX-30 DCA and santal
Here’s thé suggestion…
But at 9.0 we could also see an in-service Dutch AA, like the PRTL GWI, which has KEFT and airburst munitions. The Thales Rapidfire is more for ships and such.
it’s basically LS-6 with anti radiation seeker, LS-6 has modular capability, can add/switch to different seeker, and also add booster to get further range.
official brochure from Zhuhai Airshow.
This can be a pretty good Chinese tt alternative to hammers , brimstones and Mavs





