
spice 250 :electro-optical guided bomb that features a inhouse IIR/CCD seeker
developed by israels manufacturer(rafael) this bomb would be easily implimented to existing platforms we have in the israeli tree such as(f15I,Barak-D,BarakC)

The FV4211: The Chieftain Chobham.
A Chieftain MBT with a rudimentary Chobham set up applied developed some time in the 1970s when the Chobham armor was still top secret and in the testing phase.

i Got another Cheiftain based Beefy thing too.
The SST Goliath/Chimera.
A modern Heavy Assault gun that was designed in the 1980s, as a way to make use of the soon to be outdated Chieftain chassis. Fitted with the XL30 Cannon, which would later become the L30 mounted in the Challenger 2s.


Frontal protection was made up of over 700mm of Chobham armor on both the upper and lower plates, with 350mm on the upper sides. Weighing around 30tons, and fitted with the 750hp Leyland L60, the Tank was expected to be FAR faster and more agile than the Standard Chieftains that were closing in on 60 tons plus in their later variants. along with a lengthened chassis with a extra road wheel to compensate for the extra weight on the front from all the extra armor.
The Design also had a 50 caliber Remote weapon system proposed.
The whole idea of this proposal was to have a sort of… Heavy support tank, that would hold back and provide fire support to lighter units, while also providing a target for the enemy to focus fire on.
Interestingly, we do actually know how much Chobham the 4211 was fitted with, Along with a few of the other 1970s War Kit developments that were MADE for the Chieftains, but never saw Service as they were top secret Projects that basically No one even knew existed.



I was referring to mbts here I’m definitely keen for a LRF G6 with higher RoF
Well, that’s just wrong, FV4211 (Initially the programme was called Chieftain Mk.5/2 to try and hide the project) was a intended to be an interim MBT to bridge the gap between Chieftain and a future more advanced MBT, while reusing as many parts as possible and Chobham armour. The project started in 1969, produced a functioning prototype in '71, and was cancelled in '72 when the UK entered the FMBT programme with Germany.
FV4211 was a completely new design, the hull and turret was all Aluminium as a weight reduction measure to enable the L60 to have some hope of moving the thing, with Chobham providing the vast majority of protection. There is one surviving prototype which was fitted with Chobham and used for automotive trials, and now resides at Bovington. It was shown off to both the XM1 and Leo 2 teams and heavily influenced the development of both.
These are all proposals for FV4211’s Chobham layout, the 1st layout was eventually selected off the top of my head.
You go google Chobham armor Chieftain and that is the first result man, IDK what you want me to do.
Its still basically just a Chieftain with changes.
its the same size, same gun, same drivetrain, same everything.
Its still the bones of a Chieftain.
MOST places, even the TANK MUSEUM call it a Chieftain.
Well, we still haven’t got Vickers mk.4 series.
Omani Challenger 2.
Jordanian mods.
that makes me feel kind of sick, its just wrong
You literally called it a Chieftain upgrade, it’s not.
It’s the same sort of technologal leap between a Chieftain and a CR1
They where talking about South African MBTs
Rafale C F3-R already in france tech tree, but no Rafale B and Rafale M
(Rafale LF1, F1 Early & Late, F2.2, F3.2, F4.1 and F4.2)
F-CK-1A (pre MLU) before Mirage 2000-5Ei and J-10A
But I’m not sure battle rating 13.0 or 13.3
I mean, it is a Chieftain upgrade, and so is the CR1. If for whatever reason the CR1 itself never made it past the proposal/prototype stage, we’d probably call it a failed chieftain upgrade program
It would make no sense to put this as a premium, respectfully.
I found a French MBT with a 140mm gun to go with these two.
The French Leclerc T4 “Terminateur”



some rapidfire mounted on a truck
Could be useful as a french SPAA at 9.0, filling the gap netween AMX-30 DCA and santal