Borsuk?
What on earth is my borsuk doing here
So China could get a BMP-3/BMD-4 hybrid? I’d be down for it provided that the turret swap was a Chinese modification or that the Russians did it specifically for Chinese tests.
Well, besides the 120S prototype we already have at 10.3, there are 2 pretty prominent American upgrades that have suggestions on this very forum.
Both of these suggestions are courtesy of OddPhenomena and have yet to be passed to the developers.
M60A3 SLEP - Suggestions / Ground - War Thunder — official forum
Teledyne Continental High Performance “Super” M60 - Suggestions / Ground - War Thunder — official forum
I guess.
ZBD-04A is a new domestic chassis combining the loading system/armament of the BMD-4 into a new turret.
So I guess that specific vehicle might have something to do with it.
I do know it has been discussed before on the forums, but here are a few photos I have found
Sisu XA-180 “Kari”, modified with a 95mm S 58-61 “Musti” heavy recoilless rifle by Finnish peacekeeping forces in Lebanon during 1984.
And there is this photo as well, but it is from another forum in which I require an account to (presumably) see among others that I suspect to be interesting in their larger form.
https://maanpuolustus.net/threads/kuvia.4425/page-27
Is… is that a rear turret mounted Sherman?
I think I’m going to be sick
Something tells me people wouldn’t play that as an SPAA.
and gaijin will give it a TD label
That’s actually the original T53 GMC prototype not T53E1
The project started as a successor/upgrade to the M10 TD, which was getting obsolete.
It was a front engine Sherman hull but as both SPAA and TD it was unsatisfactory.
The gun shield, in one of its photos, I presume was added later.
The T53E1 came after in order to rectify T53’s faults
It had a conventional rear engined Sherman hull, with the 90mm mounted on a platform in the center of the vehicle.
There were two variants based on the 12mm sheet armor gun shield.
The first had the sheets bolted to form a box structure with front, sides and top covered and back open.
The 2nd variant had the two 12mm semicircular sheets on either side with top and back open.
Ultimately it wouldn’t be adopted, and the T71 GMC would be adopted as M36.
BM Oplot-P
An Oplot variant specific to Pakistani requirement. (not adopted, VT-4 Haider was inducted instead)
Essentially weight was reduced in comparison to standard BM Oplot config.
The thick Duplet ERA side skirts that cover the whole length was replaced with a lightweight sideskirts that cover only the frontal half of the hull. (likely Nizh, since thinner).
The varta soft-kill APS was also removed.
This one looks beautiful. Way better than usual oplot.
should be. that time, Chinese choosed the Bakhcha-U, and was thinking about BMP-3, but ended giving up and turn to ZBD-04
I think many people underestimate it.
There’s nothing to underestimate.
It’s a sidegrade to SU-27 where do you see an issue?
If Gaijin doesn’t mess up the Br you will clap Phantoms often enough while a full uptier is surviveable.
Why so pessimistic?
Its a downgrade. 48 countermeasures and much more of a brick.
People who’ve played the Su-27 know exactly what to expect, nothing to “underestimate”.
People are just upset that its not top of the line being added.