with long range missiles, towed decoys will probably become a thing
That may be true however if it is (very big emphasis on if) none of them have any energy.
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Very true, France doesnt give a toss about who buys their stuff, France was selling anti ship missiles to Argentina as they were (quite obviously I should add) preparing to invade the falklands which are sovereign land of one of their NATO allies. They were also selling sights for tanks and afvs to russia in the build up to their invasion of ukraine
r-37m already proved itself in ukraine against low flying maneuvering targets. definetly had the energy to be fired from their side, outside of sam range.
Typhoon already has the decoy pod modelled as if it was ready to deploy it, almost like they were going to add towed decoys with eurofighter but they pushed typhoon forward in the rushed disaster late 2024 was
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PRTL GWI - a Dutch sister-program to the German Gepard
This Dutch C series from the original proposal for a SHORAD SPAA underwent several MLU’s, such as the capabilities to use FAPDS and APFSDS. These ammunitions were fully in-service with the Dutch armed forces and would later be converted to be used on the CV9035NL, especially for the FAPDS. Read more here.
It could be a very nice 9.0-9.7 SPAA for in the Benelux (sub)tech tree and would help French tech tree SHORAD a lot, as vehicles like the SANTAL lack guns.
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If you want ATGM, then you have to put up with worse mobility and energy and higher BR. That might as well give us the best firepower and the strongest mobility.
This is ZTZ99A
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Not by me at least 👍
That’s what I figured. The look of the rear part of the turret, the APS launcher, etc. Thanks.
Shouldn’t be armed with APFSDS-T rounds as there’s little information on it but for sure with FAPDS-T which is more than enough. The best BR imo would be 10.3 (with full FAPDS-T belts). Would be a solid addition.
However, the 99A in the second picture is not equipped with the GL6, but China’s fourth-generation APS.
Gotcha, I was unsure because I know there’s a new launcher but it looks like it’s the same RADAR’s unless there’s some kind of different software.
Is it one of these two?
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the towed decoy is largely outdated. has a few use cases (you can use it longer since its physically attached, and more power) but BriteCloud and similar countermeasures are generally superior due to the number that can be carried
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Yeah. The VT4A1’s RADARs from the GL6 are the same as that found on the ZTZ99A but the launchers are different. I feel like both systems are still the GL6 but they redesigned the launcher to improve its response, likely to decrease weight and increase reliability. With the ZTZ99A’s launcher, it’s likely quicker. Other than the launcher, probably still the same GL6 equipment everywhere else. This isn’t official of course but maybe it’s like a “GL6” and “GL6A1” if you know what I mean.
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yes but britecloud is essentially a floating local DDOS for missiles, wouldnt work too good for WT just out of game design IMO, a towed decoy would be work very well within the games constraints
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Eeeh, Britecloud has the major disadvantage of costing an arm and a leg, TRD (at least for typhoon) can be retracted after use for redeployment and has a longer flight life, so is overall cheaper to run.
Different tools for different jobs :shrug:
the range on any of these missiles isn’t even close to being known yet, so i wonder where you pull that one from. MBDA itself stated 100km, then 200, and the figure 300 was also mentionned. At this point nobody knows the max range of meteor.
they already have Mica for that, it basically does the same thing at a similar price. That being said, India seems to not like being reliant on one supplier only, so buying amraams is a move i could see them do
One little thing to note, the reason meteor can afford to have as much range as the big chonkers built elsewhere is because it only carries fuel, not oxydizer
It’s unlikely, they A) produce their own AMRAAM equivalent, & B) are trying to get a Meteor production licence and integration on the rest of their fleets (Tejas, SU-30 etc), although that’s stalled due to a desire (from France probably) to sweeten a deal for additional Rafales