I haven’t but from what it looks like it’s a big ass 8x8 lol, have you?
Honestly looks like it has some pretty thick composite/NERA on the sides. Doubtful its ERA considering the USMC isn’t a fan of ERA.
yeah i have, I was lucky too since it was next to an LAV-AT. you are right, it is huge. makes the LAV look small. its a pretty neat vehicle on the inside too. i wasnt paying too much attention to the armor but I do recall the door being pretty chunky
Nice! Did you take any pics?
The vehicle past the LAV-AT is the ACV (sorry for bad photography lol)
Here is the door I was talking about
My beloved </3 lmao. Need US ATGM Carrier’s.
Anyways nice man! Yeah, that’s a pretty large door and quite a bit of armor all over the thing. Honestly, I hope they slap an MTAS turret on the ACV-platform as well. Dedicated ACV-ATM that could fire TOW-2’s and the Coyote Block 3 drones would be sick.
they could fit a whole lot of ammo in that thing. maybe even retain the .50 cal too
if MTAS cant happen i hope they put CROWS-J on it
They should just add Javelin’s to the modified MCT-30 turret they’re using already honestly. Idk why they decided to not keep them. I thought we would be past the 30mm-only phase lol
On a side note, does anyone know if Sweden or Finland plan to procure any form of modern attack helicopter? The only thing I can see for the tree for a quasi-attack helicopter is the MH-60R’s from the Danish or Norwegian militaries. Honestly, idk if they specifically utilize the AGM-114R/K Hellfire missile with them or not. The MH-60R can equip said missiles so it could be utilized as a balance option as needed.
no, but this was one of the results when i googled it for some reason
It’s time for the Spyder AiO. I’m getting pretty pissed off of the lack of effective AA for the Israeli Tree. There’s nothing that the tree has that can stop top-ranked enemy aircraft or intercept incoming missiles other than lucky interceptions using the Machbet or M48 Improved Chaparral. The SPYDER AiO along with other short-range SPYDER systems have seen actual service with the Israeli military since October of 2023.
SPYDER AiO
- Implementation:
- If the vehicle were to be added, there’s no other option other than BR 12.0. This system would require a deployment animation similar to the Bradley having to deploy its TOW launcher. Once deployed, the system would vertically fire its Python 5’s similarly to the HQ-17/Tor-M1 fire’s its missiles. One thing to note though is the superior maneuverability of the Python 5 will allow it to snap to targets with ease which include, drones, missiles, glide bombs, aircraft, helicopters, and more.
- Test firing of the SPYDER AiO, an effective short-range SAM that utilizes Python 5 interceptors.
Machbet/Hovet Reintroduction
On a side note, there may be reintroduction into service the M163 Hovet or Machbet as a means to engage drones. Personal speculation but if they reintroduce the two anti-air platforms, possible upgrades could include improved EO/IR sighting systems/enhanced thermal imagers, possible inclusion of CQB RADAR’s like the Leonardo MHR, and maybe even new types of munitions like APDS-T to engage them further out. They could possibly replace the Stinger with another type of missile or EW weapon. These two systems have been out of service since the early 2000’s.
Minecraft??
Let’s get the earlier versions of the SPYDER series first FOR THE Israeli tree. This is the latest and most modern of the SPYDER series, and the one with capabilities dwarfing that of existing SPAA systems, it logically can’t be added with its full potential.
The first and earlier of the SPYDER-Short Range variant would be the logical first addition to the Israeli tree, with the later SR and other variants such as the MR/ER/LR coming in later, and the All In One as the final addition to finish off the line.
Wonderful brand new suggestion here for it by my friend @Surbaissemaxxing which goes into detail on it and how an earlier variant limited to the regular Derby and Python 4 could be added before SPYDER systems with the I-Derby derivatives and the Python 5.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for the SPYDER-SR too as it’s a pretty awesome little vehicle that should be added soon as well (maybe an early and late variant as seen in the suggestion), but I personally want a system with an effective RADAR as an immediate solution vice another EO/IR system. The only RADAR system we have is of the ZSU-23-4V. Not having a top-RADAR equipped vehicle puts the tree at a disadvantage against other nations.
Another solution would be a sub-tree vehicle of sort that has an integrated RADAR, missiles, and even maybe a gun but idk what nation we could get. Türkiye and Chile get thrown in as options a lot. Chile doesn’t have an AIO vehicle but options for Türkiye could be HİSAR-O+, GÜRZ SHORAD, etc. Not advocating for the two nations, just listing options.
The suggested SPYDER does have its own small radar, take a look at the suggestion and you’ll see it :P
(And there’s always the HSVD/ADAMs as well)
No, I did see the EL/M-2106 NG RADAR but I don’t think it’s integrated. It looks like it’s set up off to the side.
- Circled it in the bottom image. It should be an EO/IR only with integration with the independently set up EL/M-2106 NG RADAR or the dedicated SPYDER RADAR vehicle.
- Now what WOULD BE COOL, seeing how portable it is, they should allow the EL/M-2106 NG RADAR to be set up like how we set up ammo boxes. Would be an awesome function and unique to the SPYDER-SR. I’m going to make a note of this on the post lol.
So in all, I mean the SPYDER-SR with a deployable EL/M-2106 NG RADAR like how the ammo box is deployed would be a sick option to add as well. All for it and putting the SPYDER AiO off to the side for the meantime.
🇷🇺 2S44 Giatsint-K, High Mobility Firepower
- The 2S44 Giatsint-K is a newly integrated Russian self-propelled howitzer that was first sighted in late-2024. Equipped with a 152mm 2A36 cannon, it offers a longer range than the earlier 2S43 Malva, achieving up to 45 kilometers with guided munitions. Developed by modifying the 2S43 platform, the Giatsint-K was rapidly produced using existing stocks of decommissioned barrels to meet battlefield needs. Built on the BAZ-6910-027 Voschina 8x8 wheeled chassis, it provides excellent mobility and stability. The 2S44 is confirmed in use by the 238th Guards Brigade, enhancing Russia’s counter-battery capabilities and representing a strategic shift in Russian artillery.
- Estimated BR: 7.0-7.3
🇮🇱 ROEM Self-propelled Howitzer, Automatic Mayhem
- Israel’s new self-propelled gun candidate to replace the M109, its armed with a 155mm/52 caliber cannon fitted with an automatic loading and laying gun system, rapid in-and-out action times, and a high rate of fire that’s capable of direct fire as well as targeting threats out to 40km. It’s very likely this vehicle has advanced stabilizers for the gun as well as a Laser Rangefinder. Based on a 10x10 Oshkosh Armored Truck, it can redeploy relatively quickly.
- Estimated BR: 7.7-8.0
🇺🇦 2S22 Bohdana 4.0, Latest & Greatest
- The Bohdana 4.0 is a locally-made, truck-mounted 155mm self-propelled howitzer that has become essential to the Ukrainian Army. An evolution of the 2S22 howitzer, it showcases significant advancements in artillery technology and operational efficiency, utilizing the Czech-made Tatra Phoenix 8x8 chassis, ballistic RADAR, and more, overall enhancing Ukraine’s self-reliance in defense manufacturing.
- Estimated BR: 7.0-7.3
🇫🇷 Camion Équipé d’un Système d’Artillerie (CAESER), World Renown
- The CAESAR is a 6x6 self-propelled howitzer developed by the French company Nexter Systems, designed for exceptional strategic and tactical mobility while delivering powerful fire support. Armed with a 155mm/52 caliber cannon, it boasts a firing range of 4.5 to 40 kilometers and a maximum rate of fire of six rounds per minute. Since its introduction in 2008, the CAESAR has proven effective in various combat operations across the globe, including Afghanistan and Iraq, and has been adopted by several countries, including France and Ukraine. Built on a military truck chassis, the CAESAR is highly mobile, reaching speeds of up to 90 km/h and offering features like automated firing control systems and ballistic protection. Its design allows for rapid deployment and retraction, making it well-suited for modern battlefield conditions. Over 300 units have been produced, showcasing its reliability and adaptability in diverse environments.
- Esimated BR: 7.0-7.3
🇸🇪 Archer FH77 BW L52, Sweden’s Accurate Bowman
- The Archer FH77 BW L52 is a Swedish self-propelled howitzer designed by Bofors and BAE Systems, featuring a fully automated 155mm gun mounted on a modified Volvo A30E 6x6 truck chassis. Known for its rapid deployment capabilities, the Archer can be ready to fire within 30 seconds and can shoot 21 rounds in just 2.5 minutes from its automated magazine. It has a maximum firing range of 40 kilometers with conventional ammunition and extends to 60 kilometers with precision-guided munitions like the M982 Excalibur. It also features a Remote Weapon Station that’s armed with a .50cal, EO/IR Sight w/ integrated Thermal Imager and Laser Rangefinder. The system is operated by a crew of three to four, who are protected by an armored cab that shields against small arms fire and mine blasts. With a top speed of 70 km/h and a range of up to 500 kilometers, the Archer combines mobility, firepower, and safety, making it a formidable asset on the battlefield. The system has been supplied to various operators, including Sweden and Ukraine, enhancing their artillery capabilities.
- Estimated BR: 7.7
Additional Notes:
- For in-game, the open-topped wheeled Howitzers would be able to fire straight ahead only at long-range targets on maps like Red Desert. Direct fire engagements at close range can only be done from the sides. Even then, it can’t fully rotate the gun 90-degrees on either side. This issue is the same for all listed open-tops: 2S44 Giatsint-K, ATMOS 2000, Camion Équipé d’un Système d’Artillerie (CAESER), Archer, or 2S22 Bohdana self-propelled guns (SPG).
- Not to mention, any lack of onboard ammunition stowage eliminates said vehicles which all of them should have (at the very least a minimum of 10x rounds). Regardless, it’s still cool to see such innovation for fast and effective SPG’s.
- Realistically, the only viable two are the Israeli ROEM Self-propelled howitzer and Swedish Archer due to having dedicated onboard automatic loaders/magazines, 60rd and 21rd magazine capacity respectively.
Yes, yes, yes!I need this!
Just please, Gaijin, stop introducing old helicopters and equipment for the US, don’t introduce low-ranking nonsense. Introduce at least something new, at least something newer than the 2000s.
No need to introduce AH-56 Cheyenne and similar nonsense, you have already introduced F-117 and H-34, no one plays on that.