F-16/79 to late rank VII after Northrop F-5 but before F-16A Block 20, maybe
I suppose F-CK-1A would be 13.0 or 13.3, after F-16A Block 20 MLU but before Mirage 2000-5Ei and J-10A
My idea Light Fighter and Multirole Fighter for rank VIII
F-CK-1A → J-10A (Early) → Mirage 2000-5Ei → F-16A Block 20 (l) → J-10B Early → J-10B
it was like that before, now both flanker-a and flanker-d are at 13.0. As a lot of ppl were saying that they are bad
I believe that’s a mistake, Vacuum-1 from what I know about it should be around 850-900mm of RHA at 2km? Iirc
The 1000mm figure is for the 2A83 firing much larger rods like Grifel.
No need for thermal imager, you got a radar and a 2A42 autocannon to gently deforest enemy positions.
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I like that quiet a lot
I guess It is time to Bring the VEXTRA POLE 120MM… Just like the centauro. but french…
Finnish F/A-18C Hornets
OG “Early” C
AIM-9M
AIM-120A,B
Rockets?
F/A-18C MLU 1
AIM-9X
JHMCS Helmet Mounted Sighting System
TAMMAC
Some sort of IFF interrogator upgrade (APX-111)
New Radios
F/A-18C MLU 2
JDAM, JSOW and JASSM
Link 16
Litening pod
New Amraams AIM-120C series
New computer software for new weapons integration
BOL countermeasure system
Cockpit modernization with new screens, etc.
Sensor upgrades
New GPS
It says at 1Km penetration is 1000mm, but again, I have no real idea if that’s true.
It does seem somewhat possible given the new gun / overall shell length.
But that’s what was being claimed for the 2a82 with Vacuum 1
Is the 2a83 the 152mm?
For what nation? Pretty much every nation is in a good position now.
Other than:
Russia
(Italy possibly)
And China
Most people got an F15E or a Rafael or a EF2000
Swedish tree is the only possible one as Finnish subtree is there.
Italy? Not even close to being a bad air nation. Rn the only nations without 14.0 air vehicles are Russia, China, and Sweden
Italy imo is one of the better air nations if not the best(in terms of variety, also rn they have a better EFT than germany so again they have no problems air wise.), wide selection of vehicles from Russia, Britain, and the US, alongside the best gripen C model of the gripens. To say they are bad either shows a lack of knowledge or just ignorance.
I haven’t touched Italys air tree nor have warthunder open right now.
Nobody plays that tech tree either, so I figured it wasn’t all that good. I know ground isn’t the greatest for them.
Yeah but it’s still not terribly needed right now, I’ve seen people going ham in the JAS still
Thats because you have to learn how to play trashy vehicles rn of the nations without a 14.0 it goes J10, JAS39C, SU-27SM
Again its silly to think the Gripen C is fine in the Meta, you cant turn fight any of the 14.0’s you’re slower and have less missiles and a weaker radar than them. Thats a big enough difference that imo they should be higher. SU-27SM is only semi decent because it gets 12 missiles, too bad they have unbelievably high drag so they suck more than R27ER’s lol.
Italy is also played more than Sweden is at top tier, they get consistent updates to their air tree and they have a lot of options and vehicles to play.
This is the worst thing I saw yesterday, and is still the worst thing I have seen today
Eh I see Sweden more tbh
Su-27sm may actually be good if the R-77s were fixed. But having 12aams is worthless if only 1 might hit.
I got my F-15E and I feel elated, almost every aam fired has hit thus far.
Again, if you think the Gripen is fine it tells me you haven’t actually played it. If you’ve only played the current 14.0’s im not suprised you have no idea how poorly it performs. Considering its slower than an F16C and speed is a large part of the meta, you also only get 4 aim 120’s sounds great for the Meta when everyone uses about 6 or 8 Fox 3’s especially with a radar from a 13.0
Okay you’re missing the point.
Remember the last time the F-18 was asked for?
Also the jas has been top of my team a few times in sim, so it can’t be all that bad when the rest of the team is f16s and F15s
Again when I’m fighting noobs who have no idea what they are doing it tends to be easy. I guess by this same loguc the 1951 EBR is fine at 5.3 with the same pen as a 3.3 sherman? But its okay because I a decent player know how to play maps and know my enemies weak spots? No, thats silly, the Gripen is mid and the 14.0 vehicles should be 14.3 also yeah US players tend to be F4S bombers, i have way too many matches where i see a F15E bombing…
Also why bring F18? I didn’t mention it did i? Regardless you seem to not have much of an understanding of players and general skill. If players are stuck with garbage vehicles on minor nations they tend to do better than noobs with the best vehicle, we’re going off topic if you wish to continue this DM me otherwise id suggest calling it here before a snail mod eats us.
It’s a strike eagle, if anything the game is holding it back from doing what it’s meant to do
