no, real gun, the one on 122tm, new 120mm cannon with better ammo was not ready, and it’s autoloader too. but still, it’s a operational prototype
An ASEAN subtree that is split in a reasonable way.
China getting only the more eastern ASEAN nations (Myanmar, Laos) alongside Pakistan, Bangladesh and North Korea if they do split Korea.
Japan getting the more NATO aligned ASEAN (Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines)
ASEAN split 9 - 1 with Thailand for Japan and every other nation for China is a serious punch in the face for Japan that takes most of their possible subtrees away, and simply unnecessary for China with their great amount of other possible subtrees (I didn’t even name all of them since I wanted to keep 5 for both. Unlike Japan, China can get a lot more).
It doesn’t even keep ASEAN together. If that is the goal it should be a standalone tree, not Chinese.
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Probably more like 9.0, the ZTZ59D1 has similar performing ERA on a T-54 chassis at 8.3 with a DM23 analogue dart. Granted, it doesn’t have much ERA and lacks a horizontal stabilizer, so it would be a bit lower.
China getting only the more eastern ASEAN nations (Myanmar, Laos) alongside Palistan, Bangladesh and North Korea if they do split Korea.
Laos doesn’t really add anything new to the Chinese TT, Myanmar is a better choice not only that they use quite a lot of Chinese made equipment. Myanmar has some domestically built fighting vehicle though information is lacking on them even more so than North Korean vehicles. The rest are reasonable choices
Japan getting the more NATO aligned ASEAN (Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines)
Personally i would give Singapore to South Korea however i doubt that would be an option assuming if Korea gets split. Despite what some people state the Philippines is a good fit and they do use Japanese built equipment (T-34 Mentor, UH-2 Huey, there is also a proposal to give Type-74’s to the Philippines). Vietnam isn’t a bad pick since they too use Japanese built equipment (FD-25 Toyo, Teisho class patrol vessels and the Vietnamese Coastguard recently placed an order for Aso Class patrol vessels), also a significant portion of IJA holdouts in Vietnam sided with the Viet Min during the first Indochina war against the French and were eventually integrated into the VPA proper
Looking forward to the day bombers get some love. How about a B-54 with radar guided guns? It would be a tougher nut to cracks for the gun fighters at the expense of a higher BR further in to missile world…so basically still virtually unusable…
Unfortunately the stretched out and souped up B-50+ was never finished.
Artists impression
Front guns as tested on a B-29
Rear turret on unfinished prototype
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When the Bull became a Barge.
Tu-85, the ultimate development of the B-29 family. She had the unfortunate luck to overlap with the Tu-95 and was limited to just 2 prototypes.
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I think the WT community deserves more of the renowned French beauty and style.
Bregaut 410…a real head turner!
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God, the nose of this thing is so Borzoi
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Idk what it is, but I like it a lot.
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Oddly reminiscent of the Black Tulip
From what I’ve heard that is a SK60C, basically the SK60 we have in game but with observation equipment, again that’s just what I’ve been told when it’s appeared before.
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There is a very similar Swedish prototype to that VTS1.
(I do not believe it had a functional gun however)
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PLZ-07 and PLL-09, modern 122mm SPG can be very fun
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T54B
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IIRC the gun was fully functional, but the autoloader didn’t get bolted on to it even though it was completed and ready. Would fall under uncompleted prototypes like the Yak-141 so it could def get added by Gaijins rules.
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Well, that’s the German one (Marder hull), with a mock-up gun
If you want the Swedish one, you’ll want the UDES XX-20 (has functional gun, idk about loading tho)
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I believe you’re thinking of the UDES XX-20.
As far as I know that’s a German Marder with a mock-up gun from the same or a similar project.
It does, I’ve suggested it to be ported from the old forum to here, as well as on a few other threads.
I know of the UDES XX-20, but don’t know the specific designation for that thing, which was to test the the ability of the gun mounting system before going on the endeavor of full production or prototype runs of the XX-20
The VTS1 and UDES XX-20 Gun testbed have almost nothing in common other than them being a gun test bed based on the Marten IFV.
VTS-1 used a 105mm smooth bore, the XX-20 gun bed used a smooth bore 120mm
This HQ image makes the Swedish Quadricolor splinter visible, as well as the Yellow Swedish marking number on the front of the hull.
This tank is commonly referred to as “4911” because of its hull number.
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The TM has a different gun and the TH uses the same dummy gun, you can tell by the length of the bore excavator.