64T i wouldnt consider obese, now 75T yeah sure but 64 in modern day is quite average
Bro the combat weight with addon equipment is still 75t on a Challenger 2
The maximum allowed weight of a Leopard 2A7V is 69t
The combat weight of a Leopard 2A7V in the heaviest configuration the BW uses is 66.5t
Without addon equipment, the combat weight of a Leopard 2A7V is 63.9t
The combat weight (not maximum weight, combat weight) of a Challenger 2 with addon equipment is 8.5t higher than the combat weight of a 2A7V with addon equipment and 6t higher than the maximum possible weight of a 2A7V.
but the modern up to date challenger would be 70T or the 75T, dont know if the TES is the actual in service variant.
But the 2F at least seems to have been
you are again using the heaviest possibly config of the challenger
well the ones we sent to ukraine were normal models but i think if britain was to actually use them in war we would put the armour packages on i just dont think we wanted to send them against russia cause its secret shi
Who do both those images say “Max launch range 70kg” ? Lol.
Canadian units of measurement called
cause they suck at making placards 2024 Zuhai had one labelled turbomotor instead of Turbojet for example, if you search youll find more typos, the older you go the more
I am also using the heaviest possible config and even the maximum allowed weight of 69t for 2A7V.
Do you want me to use the highest possible weight of a Leopard 2A7V and compare it with the empty weight of a Challenger 2 because you cant accept that you were wrong about 2A7V being heavier?
you are using the lightest 2a7v config which is 64.1T being 0.1T heavier than the challengers lightest config
He sued gaijin and got 3 million btw
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okay so we are just ignoring this part outright, sure.
That is also wrong, it’s the combat weight without mineprotection (lightest 2a7v config would be the empty weight, which is even lower) and even then its not 64.1t but 63.9t
“63,9T Combat Weight”
I already sent this here but you unsurprisingly ignored it.
Polish tech tree 🤤
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i was talking about ingame i never ignored anything and this also doesnt change the fact you were wrong in calling the challenger 2 obese when it weighs basically the same as a 2a7 and even less than it in game
i mean comparing the most modern leopard to the most modern challenger shows the 2A7V is 1.6 tons heavier, thats without the mine protection mod so I dont really get the argument going on here
me neither tbh
Hella strawman because the ingame Challenger 3TD is based on the 2019 version with base challenger 2 armour.
And even then, it should be 64t because the report that got it to 62.5t was made before the Challenger 2’s weight was corrected:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/TmfWqB5WGPMi
The actual Challenger 3 weighs 66t
I hope when the F-15EX/Su-35 trailer drops there’s a slow-mo transition scene going from F-15A → F-15C MSIP II → F-15C GE → F-15EX and Su-27S → Su-27SM → Su-35S, giving a bit of Air Superiority vibes, coming full circle with the “final” form of both aircraft.
But that’s just my artistic cope.
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dayumm, i’d play the challangers IF they weren’t so fat and ugly and slow and useless, but that turret looks pretty nice tbh. the hull is just so fat ugly and weak tho
Can’t wait for the F-15EX to be added in November just for 5th gens to be added in December and completely overshadow it. :/