Becuase it was so unfair to compare the heaviest configuration of a 2A7V with the heaviest configuration of a Challenger 2.
Clearly comparing the lighest ingame version of a Challenger 2 with the heaviest ingame version of the BW’s Leopard 2 is the fairer comparison.
the base CR2 isnt the lightest that would be the CR2E or the CR3TD and the configuration of the 2a7 im using isnt the heaviest
saying its “obese” is calling it fat is calling it heavy when its got the average weight of a modern mbt with yes less power to compensate but that was never part of the conversation from what i know
maybe they would but its not the point im trying to put across
And say it, what the point that YOU are trying to make
that the challenger isnt “obese” as its weight is average for a modern mbt but it can be considered underpowered
It still is obese, the actual comparison would be more like 2a5/6 vs chally 2
2A7V is pretty much only further upgraded 2a5/6. The addon armor is the same as you adding ERA
We just dont like ERA
64T i wouldnt consider obese, now 75T yeah sure but 64 in modern day is quite average
Bro the combat weight with addon equipment is still 75t on a Challenger 2
The maximum allowed weight of a Leopard 2A7V is 69t
The combat weight of a Leopard 2A7V in the heaviest configuration the BW uses is 66.5t
Without addon equipment, the combat weight of a Leopard 2A7V is 63.9t
The combat weight (not maximum weight, combat weight) of a Challenger 2 with addon equipment is 8.5t higher than the combat weight of a 2A7V with addon equipment and 6t higher than the maximum possible weight of a 2A7V.
but the modern up to date challenger would be 70T or the 75T, dont know if the TES is the actual in service variant.
But the 2F at least seems to have been
you are again using the heaviest possibly config of the challenger
well the ones we sent to ukraine were normal models but i think if britain was to actually use them in war we would put the armour packages on i just dont think we wanted to send them against russia cause its secret shi
Who do both those images say “Max launch range 70kg” ? Lol.
Canadian units of measurement called
cause they suck at making placards 2024 Zuhai had one labelled turbomotor instead of Turbojet for example, if you search youll find more typos, the older you go the more
I am also using the heaviest possible config and even the maximum allowed weight of 69t for 2A7V.
Do you want me to use the highest possible weight of a Leopard 2A7V and compare it with the empty weight of a Challenger 2 because you cant accept that you were wrong about 2A7V being heavier?
you are using the lightest 2a7v config which is 64.1T being 0.1T heavier than the challengers lightest config
He sued gaijin and got 3 million btw
okay so we are just ignoring this part outright, sure.
That is also wrong, it’s the combat weight without mineprotection (lightest 2a7v config would be the empty weight, which is even lower) and even then its not 64.1t but 63.9t
“63,9T Combat Weight”
I already sent this here but you unsurprisingly ignored it.
Polish tech tree 🤤
