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Who knows, it could come in September :P. Besides, once the initial hype around 5th gen goes down a bit (unless Escalation is a full-time thing by then, where stealth would actually be useful), then everyone runs back to missile bus meta. In which case:

F-15EX:
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(Speaking of what could come, has a vehicle teased in a decal ever not come? F-16XL where are you)

i think F-15E RMP is more likely to come before F-15EX

@exeisdefeatable you’ve got a friend, now kith

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It’s honestly a toss up at this point.

The RMP would still be 14.3 material as it more than likely will only come with 8x AAMs total, EPAWSS (ie. +120x CMs), no BOL (Es don’t get them), 120Ds, and the usual AESA radar.

Yes, it will still have PW-229s, but I don’t think all of that is enough to warrant 14.7.

If Gaijin wants to add a 14.7 for the US at all, the EX is the only option.

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The only other option.

F-15C GE is hilariously under BR’d.

would it retain the 2 sets 60 small and 30 large supplemental countermeasures?

The F-15C GE shouldn’t be the same BR as the Su-30SM2 or Eurofighter AESAs. These would need to be 15.0 for the F-15C GE to go to 14.7. (Which I would 100% support, decompression is sorely needed).

The J-15T shouldn’t be the same BR as these planes either. It shouod stay 14.7 while the GE joins it at 14.7 and the rest go up in BR.

The F-15EX is the only plane that would actually deserve current 14.7 parody (or 15.0 with decompression).

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Why not? On top of getting 4x extra missiles, BOL, and AIM-120D, it can and does comfortably compete with these aircraft you mention.

J-15T cant be placed lower because PL-12A, even if it has next to no physical countermeasures.

F-15EX would simply do what the GE does + have CAS + better flight performance (in a straight line, anyways). It would be an upgrade, definitely one to actually consider in the “best aircraft of x BR” conversations, but not out of reach of the F-15C GE.

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The Challenger 3TD weighs 62.5 tonnes as it is not a combat spec vehicle.

64 tonnes is the fully loaded weight for a Challenger 2, the 3TD is missing a lot of equipment such as turret spall liners etc… as well as using a lighter welded turret base rather than the CR2s cast turret base.

Therefore it has the non-combat weight of the Challenger 2, which is 62.5 tonnes, as it is just a tech demo vehicle.

The production/prototype Challenger 3s are 66 tonnes as they have entirely new internal armour and other added equipment (e.g. ERA), that pushes up the total weight.

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that image isn’t even accurate tho as it literally states things that the challenger 3 has yet to be seen with such as an Active Protection system.

you can say what you want that its a straw man, I’m comparing the Challenger 3TD britains most modern tank in game to germany the 2A7V how that is a strawman I have zero idea

if we compared britain’s heaviest tank to germany’s then yeah the Challenger 2 is heavier as the TES / OES war kits encompassed the entire tank pretty much so obviously they are going to be heavier lol

even if we take the lightest figures from both then yeah the Challenger 2s would be heavier as you are comparing the 2A5 to the Challenger 2 which the difference would be 4.5 tons which is still decent bit smaller then when you were trying to compare the heaviest challenger load the heaviest leopard 2 load

In general comparing the maximum possible weight of the Leopards and Challenger 2/3s is a little bit of a ridiculous thing to do.

The Challenger 2’s with addon armour will obviously weigh a lot more as they just have a much larger amount of addon armour fitted to them compared to the Leopard 2 models the Bunderswehr use.

In terms of base weight, the Challenger 3 is a few tonnes heavier than something like a 2A7V. However, we don’t know if this includes the extra weight of the Challenger 3s frontal ERA which seems standard now.

If you fitted a Leopard 2 with the OES/TES standard kits… it would likely weigh in excess of 70 tonnes too (and the suspension would probably fail), as it just a heavier armour package. It’s not really an inherent thing about either tank, but rather the side armour packages either nation uses.

The OES kits are about 10 tonnes regardless of whatever you fit them to.

lotta yap but no gamble crates, let me fall into deep depression from 300 boosters already

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been waiting for a while now, last crates i got the VFW as a coupon, hoping for something nice this time around too lol

@Smin1080p_WT

is their any plans for road map style like this?

is their plans to add awesome art like this to devblogs / game background again?

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they got replaced by the Community notes iirc

would be awesome if mr snail use same art style for community notes it look cool 🙀

Why do I even bother linking the report when people dont read it and instead make up whichever nonsense they see fit anyway.
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62.5t is literally the empty weight of a challenger 2 with no ammunition, fuel, crew, etc.

And it has since been corrected ingame to 24t.
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You get that part from where? Gaijin not modelling something doesnt mean it isnt there?

The first CR3 prototype turret was delivered in august 2023, not 2019.
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In the interview linked in the report, the RBSL rep said that the weight did not increase but not that it decreased.
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Genius argument, so we should give every demonstrator the empty weight without fuel, ammunition, crew etc. then because they’re just tech-demo vehicles?

what are you talking about?