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I think AMRAAMs need to be restored to an appropriate state too

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According to the datamines, they gimped the AMRAAMs’ fin AOA actuation.

This is something that Gaijin cannot possibly have real world evidence for, so it’s entirely down to balancing. There’s zero reason to believe that AIM-120 fins should actuate slower than other modern Fox-3 fins.

The max fin AOA is fine, it’s just the speed at which it can articulate its fins that is woefully gimped.

did you even read what I wrote there?

more missiles haven’t made the F/A-18C more competitive ← Fully enclosed statement, Not a question, Provides a Similar example rhat I’ve actually played too! for context

why should that work for the F-15C (GE)? ← Question about your opinion (remains unanswered)

tell me why would that would improve it without Degrading me or comparing it to other aircraft with different missiles

I want to know how you believe this would make the F-15C GE better, I do not need you to tell me how many missiles everyone else has, I know that already

its funny because basically all missiles are gimped to hell in War thunder.

I dont think a single missile ingame uses dual plane guidance limiting their G overload to a max of 35 or sth even tho it says 50 on the statcard

This thing shouldn’t even be in the game. I don’t own any American planes, but to be honest, it makes no sense for a plane to be in the game, especially since we’re probably less than 10 days away from seeing a trailer for the next update. The US could have been left out of the last update.

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it simply could have been a modification for the MSIP II

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exactly, so why are we even trying to change that? they haven’t fixed any other missile in game ever since they were Introduced

It would allow it to have more longevity in battle and be more persistent in engagements…

It kinda goes without saying that adding more missiles allows you to fire at and engage with more enemies.

Currently the Eurofighter and Rafale are much better at engaging and evading enemies.

The Su-30SM has a worse FM than those two, but it makes up for it by having more missiles to engage with.

The F-15C GE can’t do what the EF and Rafale do in terms of flight performance, so more missiles it is.

Smin confirmed yesterday that the F15C GE will get an upgrade for its loadout in the next major update.

Tbf at that point they could have just not added it last patch but its whatev

Why play with F15GE when I have F15JM in Japan on BR13.7 where it’s amazing.
It would have been better if the foreigners had waited for the latest update and given us an F-15EX or Super Hornet, but I don’t know, I don’t play as the US, I don’t know what they might have, I just want my Su-35.

thank you for that answer, that’s what Id have wanted 30 min ago

now, taking more ordenance would further decrease it’s Flight performance and acceleration/top speed etc

so that could actually make it worse, you just don’t need to Reload as often as you do now

Great, but the F-15GE is still completely pointless (my God, I never thought I’d be defending the US someday). It’s just an F-15 MSIP with AESA. The only F-15 I own is the Japanese JM, and I would never trade it for an F-15GE. The US could have received another aircraft in the next December update.

To be fair the reason more missiles have improved the su30 and 27sm is because they are good missiles unlike AMRRAM’s as Alvis mentioned they are the worst in game among the top tier fox 3’s adding more bad missiles isn’t gonna fix the problems it will just give you more chances to fire a missile that could miss or will be notched by the more meta planes.

however in his defense not all players are good and defend well so more missiles would actually help, it would depend on the match either its a QOL change against good players, or gives a slight increase in kill potential or staying in the fight however that’s more hampered by fuel load vs maneuverability decisions.

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4 additional AMRAAMs won’t slow it down very much at all…

Wrong answer,
Currently AIM-120s feel drastically worse than every other Fox-3 I’ve played with besides Derby, and considering over 60% of top tier aircraft are reliant on variants of the AMRAAM, i think the answer here is direct buffs to the missile instead of just a blanket increase in missile count.

8 buffed AMRAAMs are worth far more than 12 current ones, especially in the hands of the average US player

well no it’s not pointless

it has a Different radar and C5 AMRAAMs while the MSIP has A/B AMRAAMs

yes it’s currently a small difference but it still is a difference

I see it like the F-16C50 when it was introduced, it had little difference to the ADF then but that changed when it then got AMRAAMs in a Later patch

imo this is what they’re probably planning with the F-15C GE, my assumption as I said earlier is that they’ll introduce new IR missiles on it, which would make it Drastically better than the MSIP

With buffs to aim-120 you still will have to facte them.
And they still will be on superior(in wt) platform

The AIM-120 will never return to its glory days of 2024; now everyone has similar or even better missiles and aircraft. The sparaam meta is over, it will just be another ordinary missile, it will do its job but it won’t be anything special compared to the others.

If they gave it properly modeled AIM-120C-7s with an upgraded seeker and better fin AOA actuation that might be the case.

but it would slow it down