I still dont understand how
“close to but definetly still wrong” = “historically accurate”
But whatever.
Right now the most pressing and immediate issue is the complete work of fiction that is BOL.
Getting our 320 missing CMs on the Tornados would be an immediate and notable buff. Let alone the currently missing 432 large calibre chaff
while I wont deny that the grippen for the time was out top fighter (even if they had to make it VERY unrealistic to make it so) it doesnt change the complete lack of a top br tank
india so far added 2 SPAA in a BR gap where we have 3 domestic options, the T-90 at BR where we again have 3 domestic options and now a SA MBT the only other thing it added was a jagaur thats only selling point was Magic 2s sorry if I find it hard to belivie india has done much in the way of adding to the tree that we dont already have
I will break it down to a final time to conclude the subject so this thread can move on.
The game is a game. There are physical limitations as to what can be replicated in the games framework when it comes to aircraft performance. The Tornados fall well within the acceptable performance margin to the point where the changes do not provide any significant benefits to the overall gameplay of the vehicle and simply cannot be replicated in game without further compromises to the vehicles performance, making it more incorrect in other areas due to the complexities of swing wings.
I would still like to get justification for the state of BOL and when it will be fixed.
Tornados, Harriers, Gripens, Viggens, F-18s, F-14 and even the Typhoon, have one of their core strengths so completely gutted that its almost a waste of weight and drag to equip
Its never been a requirement for a sub tree to add a top BR tank. That is not their sole purpose.
These were requested by British community players and had no impact on domestic options.
It was not purely about BR gaps, but gameplay gaps a vehicle variety, as we have explained many times.
You missed out the Bison and Marut too, as well as the other Indian vehicle as well.
But on top of this, as we have said, more Indian vehicles will come. Again, we have no news to report on them today at this very moment, otherwise we would have done so in the CM disclosures, so there is nothing further for me to add here.
BOL is modelled as we have said based on how the developers have concluded it performed with the available information. Two suggestion reports are present on it, but as these are suggestions there is no ETA. It depends on conclusive materials.
This has nothing to do with this topic once again, and we appear to be back on the off topic train.
Isn’t this literally the Elde Mobility which nobody cared about except swedish players, and everyone else just said it was fine to let happen.
never said that they stopped additions I was pointing out in capability they added nothing as they were no gaps
what does the T90 add in that regard? I guess a some what armoured UFP but if its mobility or firepower the Vicker Mk7 is at the same BR
sorry forgot about them the Marut is neat as a fully domestic option the bison is ehhh I could take or leave it
fair enough my complaints were more that every other Sub nation goes to the top BR in some way shape or form but india and SA dont funny enough the only thing we got that has is the Aussie F/A-18A+ which isnt a subtree but still nice
I thought you said recently that no SPAA were planned for the upcoming updates
Then that was clearly incorrect information with 0 basis in reality. Chaff is the easiest to explore.
The fact that the catridge is 18% lighter (even though it has greater volume) shouldnt have justified a 75% reduction in effective performance.
That is just insane.
What next? Removing the Typhoons ability to supercruise because the devs beleive the Mach 1.5 is a marketing lie?
Which should have been provided by both Flame and Gunjob on the day the original nerf was implemented.
If you would like to respond in the British Weapon Systems thread then be my guest. However, a game breaking and fundemental issue like this needs to be resolved ASAP and should be a high priority change.
Here’s the original report for Bol flares being nerfed, makes sense to me.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Gbo81azOGwV3
Capability wise they did offer gap closers. Providing different systems to the Stormer. Alternatives that again, people requested.
A totally different playstyle and gameplay to most British MBTs.
That ultimately though is an issue of Traction. Something Gaijin doesnt beleive to be real.
and the new Double Differential developed for it, is a game changer for everyones MBTs
true just a shame we dont get that at a higher br like everyone else tho /j
Yep, and it was a fundementally flawed report that should have been rejected as it was directly comparing BOL to regular flares as if BOL was actually dispensing regular flares. not the Chaff-like IR material it actually does
If anything the opposite is true and they should have been buffed not nerfed (in terms of luminosity)
Let alone the lack of anything even being mentioned about chaff
@Smin1080p_WT can I ask why Cyprus was chosen to be a subtree of Israel despite recent threats from Israel to Northern Cyprus and a Major Cypriot Political party claiming that Israel is a threat to Cyprus- not to mention the fact many Cypriots simply don’t like Israel.
Traction? Traction lmao its a problem of a articulated vehicle not being able to move its back half despite in realife it being able to do so, tell me you didn’t bother to pay attention without telling me lol. This is literally the same problem of the devs saying they couldn’t implement it and saying sorry we dont care to bother fixing it lmao.
hide F-117 in air battles
let enemy find it itself
in all seriousness tho india supposedly has a cannon armed light tank that would fit at 11.3-12.0 which is something the UK lacks and wouldnt step on the toes of anyone who wants a domestic IFV
By the way, now that I’ve come to think of it. How is “gameplay variety” a fair point? Shouldn’t that variety be offered with each nation being unique and following a different doctrine? Why does every nation need to seemengly have every single gameplay style at their disposal?