It’s only a disappointment because people like you are so hell bent on making tech trees 100% pure
And this convo here is why we need nation folders, or literally any sub-tree rework.
Sub-trees have only become one thing controversial, more often then not to the host tree and mixed to the sub nation.
the tree name is Great britain not SA, so yeah sorry to say I play for british tanks not SA tanks
Names and flags means nothing on reality if it did then how come we’ve got sub nations ?
Look at Japan air at top tier, Thailand has got the same amount as Japan if the Japanese name mattered to much then why not just remove them
The Badger is one of the worst IFVs ever added. Scimitar, Fox and Warrior, even the Falcon at a lower BR put it too shame.
In an update where we should have finally gotten a top tier SAM system. getting an IFV that was weaker than lower BR options, was just a let down. What we need now is
- A top tier worthy MBT
- A top tier SPAA
- A higher tier IFV
What we dont need is a downgrade over existing 10.3 MBTs
you seem to miss the sub part there, they arent the focus
completely different situations, japan lacked options as @長門 said the UK has plenty of options with out SA
Ok if needs mean anything at all then why did we get SA in the first place ?
because people cried for it to be a thing, and gaijin seemingly completely ignored all of britains options for light tanks
But you said names matted, if names matted then remove Thailand
“the tree name is Great britain not SA”
Because Gaijin have a fallacy that Britain never made anything domestic. Especially in the light tank/IFV department and therefore needed a Sub-TT.
sure if you want to be pedantic then sure go ahead most Japanese players are just happy they finally got the F2 and the ones that complain can just blame you for thinking its the exact same situation
Why blame me you’re the one that said names mattered, “the tree name is Great britain not SA”.
I’m saying if sub trees are added then add them properly like in game tab nations than in the main tree.
If sub nations get’s added into the main tree then expect wishlisters to say “Oh I wish this was added”
My goal in this game now is to make pure line ups from sub nations, how can I do that when players actively try and suppress subs and other nations with in a main.
Japan has massive gaps
meanwhile lets see what the UK would lack with out SA
in this photo all they lack is a single light tank at 4.3
6.3 and 6.7 light tanks that we had options for but here we are.
the G-6 which again we have domestic options for
Eland 90 we have the fox and scimitar
rooikat, we have the vickers mk11, olifant mk1 we have the cheiftain mk3 and mk5
Badger is just worthless the warrior at 8.0 is a better scout and IFV
MTTD, we have the VMF 5, olifant mk2 we have the cheiftain 10
and then I dont even have to mention the TTD its the worst tank in its BR bracket we could bring
(also all of the SPAA we have SPAA at the same BRs so it doesnt change a whole lot if they were removed)
Alright then remove SA and make it the 11th playable nation
sure it will be condemned to the fate of isreal and china and just be mostly copy paste centurions but if you want that then im all for it, means we have the 5th line for a domestic light tank line finally
And this is my problem, you’ve want to kick SA out of Britain but yet don’t want to add them as an 11th nation.
Well I guess that’s goodbye to most countries around the world then because there a kid in the corner only wants to play with there things.
Consider that not every nation can, or should, be added to the game.
most nations dont have the tanks or planes to be a tree with out mostly copy paste and look at the reception of china and isreal, im fine with them doing that but most people wont be but I could careless if it means we get actual domestic options and not useless SA additions
If only subtrees were implemented in a way where they aren’t second class gap fillers and can be properly fleshed out without worrying about hindering the “main” nation…
We just need nation folders yall