Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

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833

As i have said before SA was the first and only good sub tree gaijin ever added mostly because the vehicles were consistently unique across the board and not just 1-2 with the rest being copy and paste slop.

I cant wait for the swiss ground sub tree to be a bunch of a AMX-13s, Centurions, and leopard 2s with maybe the panzer 58 being the single unique domestic vehicle in the tech tree.

All other swiss panzer variants and MOWAG options will end up being event, premium or squadron vics. Its the same thing that played out with the Benelux,Finnish and Hungarian subtree…

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834

But even then, as you can see with this convo, it’s not exactly well liked in it’s host tree.

Well might be unique, but it failed everywhere else. So it gets 0.5/1 points. As it comes with the fact it both doesn’t fit/was unneeded.

Finland gets its own 0.5 of a point, due to the fact that it fits its host.

The majority get a 0, due to the number of other issues as well.

Thailand can’t say much, untill the ground comes, but well not a full point, is looking to get more then 0.5 of a point.

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835

I hope this bit is referring to the IFV part and not the MBT part lol.

836

I would assume IFV lol

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837

I worded it poorly. I meant Id rather take a 12.0 MBT that we dont have yet (realistically we only have 11.3/11.7 MBTs) over another 10.3/10.7 MBT that we do already have quite a good MBT for (in fact we already have 3)

CR2BN is only 12.0 because it has APS and whether the 2E should be 12.0 is highly debatable.

The Challenger 3(P) is needed ASAP as gaijin clearly doesnt care about modeling the CR2s accurately

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838

I like the implication that the Chally 3(P) would be modeled accurately

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839

Oh yeah not denying that, honestly when it was first added as a subtree i was excited since the Olifant Mk.2 is one of my favorite centurion mods. But now? Honestly it should have been added as an independent half tree in the same way Israel was (and China honestly should have been)

I would say that Thailand was the one single acception since Japan is the one nation that is actually very limited on what vehicles could be added.

Error 405 error 405 error 405… and it broke the spoiler too. Man the forums really do not like me

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840

Yeah… but at least they strip it of basic features, like armour, spall liners or LWR

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841

Well I agree it should be it’s own TT, I’ll diffagree with the half-trees. even more so for nations the fought in WW2.

China should be a nation with a somewhat unique low tier, with the funnies they built. Everything points to there being options, Gaijin just didn’t make them.

And we do have low rank unique stuff for ZA.

I think the only WW2 nations getting their own tree and it being a half tree I’d be fine with is likely India.

AAAA! 405!

842

@Smin1080p_WT would it be possible to Nudge this report?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/AUfAIlAreJ5M
All it would need is adding an 0 to the sensor…
So that its not just starting when the Missile is 250m away…

843

Yeah.

Hopefully the BOL gets added to the A,C,E since there is proof for all of them and APG-63/70 gets fixed

844

@Smin1080p_WT
With the coming of rank VIII, we didnt get RP reduction of the vehicles at these br’s.
Are there any plans to introduce BR reductions in the near future, since the grind is getting very long and frustrating at these br’s.

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845

Azerbaijan as a subtree for Israel
(because of their very fine military relations)

Azerbaijain was a part of Iran a century ago and has nothing to do with Turkey…

846

I thought Azerbaijan and Turkey were quite close militarly?

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847

maybe, but i think israel and azerbaijan military relations is much more. azerbaijan won the war with armenia with help of israel drones, even turkey military relations with israel has a long history

azerbaijan people are not “turks” like the people in turkey.
they are “Azeri” like iranian “Azeri” population.
azerbaijan Azeri people are about 10 million, and Azeris in iran are more than 20 million

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848

I see, I guess that could work.

I was hoping that India would’ve been given to Israel tbh but it’s been dashed everywhere since it officially became a UK subtree.

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849

india as uk subtree make sense

850

for italy spain made sense but we have hungary

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851

I guess but Canada and Australia both make more sense as we still coordinate whereas Israel is a huge partner to India. Also there was also way more room in an Israeli tree for those vehicles than in the UK.

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852

Ifirc, Spain is still an option as the UK has 2 subtrees.

Imo, Hungary should’ve been with Poland and Czechoslovakia and Spain+Romania for Italy

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