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what about the mirage2000 rmv

oh XD does that mean fox to toptier

oh yeah, that to 15.0

sorry, what exact sidewinder variant is it?

i believe the aim-9D

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tomcat had pheonix from the start

Normal tomcats only carried fleet and after-united missiles
So, 9D, G, H. Probably also there already was 9L prototype

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different class of aircraft though. I’ve been comparing a2a fighters, not attackers. I even mentioned that introduction date only really works as an indicator for aircraft of the same class

Why?

it entered service in 1967

oh nv thought it was newer than that

it entered service 1973 (according to norfolk tank musuem) but was tested 1967 (accoridng to wiki)

Then 13.0 because its newer than the variant of the Tornado Gr4/harrier Gr7 we have in game

all the SPGs would increase massively in br

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I only quickly glanced, still doesnt mean it should be “top tier” because of introduction date

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so wheres my bismarck

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fair enough.

still, F-15C MSIP II came when it should have, and its hardly a counterpart for the Typhoon regardless of what others have said.

with the typhoon and rafale we got, an F-15C with AN/APG-63v3 wouldve been a more correct counterpart.

BOL should have come to every US F-15 too

If we forget introduction dates, because they mean bugger in war thunder.

Then no. F-15C should be 14.0, it has the same performance as the Typhoon currnetly. If the US had only gotten the F-16C and AV-8B+ with AMRAAM in June and then got the F-15C in the same update as the Typhoon and Rafale, then they would have been fine.

The fact they had to get it 6 months first and just steam rolled for 6 months just shows Gaijins bias towards the major nations.

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F-22 and Eurofighter are not of the same class and I will die on this hill, it’s a testament to the design of both that we even compare them. Typhoon and Rafale are attempts to perfect a concept, that concept being 4th generation air combat.

F-22 set out to reinvent it. Hence the difference in Generation classification. It is its own unique class yet to be rivalled but closest rivalled by the J-20, J-35 and (definitely not) the Su-57.

A couple of stats I think you might find interesting. Eurofighter development costs ~$ 65270300000.00 (65 Billion). F-22 development costs in excess of $100 billion.

Eurofighter partner nation unit cost; ~$97 million, F-22 unit cost in excess of $200 million.

You can indeed classify things yes, but they can always be further classified.

Introduction date is a horrendous metric to base any evaluation on.

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fact that only ~200 were produced also matters in that.

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Definitely important, UK eurofighters for example were initially cheaper than other nations, I factored this in, this was the low-ball figure. The highball figure was $350 million.