https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104506/f-22-raptor/
this says $143 million
i think highball figure is total program cost divided by # of combat F-22 made
GAO also says it was $67 billion for the program overall
Still a heck of a ton just to pop some party ballons
all that money for an enemy that didnt exist anymore. Im sure the experience from it is going to helpful in coming years though
already not that far from other planes
You haven’t factored in inflation, that figure comes out of their purchasing price in 2005, which also increased when they failed to buy the 750 originally tendered, and then the 500, and then the 350. . Also that figure is exclusively production cost and doesn’t factor in the markup applied by Lockheed. I looked into that figure.
Which again, doesn’t factor in inflation, and is also the lowest possible cost I found quoted. But I can find at least 5 other sources suggesting at least $200 billion and most suggesting $350 billion.
Regardless my point stands, they are not contemporaries, they are also not equals, and its reflected principally in the economics. Which even using the lowest low-ball figures you can find, suggest at least a 30% excess cost for the F-22 over the Eurofighter, in every single metric. EFT and Rafale contemporaries are other 4.5th gens. A jet at the top of the 5th gen air performance is a luxury.
Also, didn’t the USAF lie repeatedly to congress in order to defend the project?
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im guessing the Typhoon costs you posted are adjusted?
For inflation yes, for production costs also yes, but doesn’t factor in upgrade costs but those adjust the price by a maximum of maybe $20 million at most when you add up all the upgrades? Maybe round off at like $120 million max.
just like we can blame the US for having mid 4.5 gen jets and will just have to wait until 5th gen to have a chance at reclaiming the title of air meta
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ok, but then comparing the F-15C to the Typhoon is more egregious than F-22 to Typhoon econmically, since F-15C unit cost as of 1998 is a little under $30 million, adjusted to 2025 that is $58-59 million. so Typhoon costs 64-67% more, using your $97 million unit cost
I still want the Boxer CTA40 I think that will be the end of the line light tank for the UK
F-15 advanced eagle series could compete decently against eurocanards
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and it makes sense Typhoon should have ASRAAM as it was already in service before the EFT was finish was was designed as the main IIR missile for the british EFT oh wait
it wasnt the IIR a2a missile update though was it?
Well… F-15EX’s entered service in 2024. So that means its contemporary is the Tranche 4 Typhoon with ASRAAM/IRIS-T, CAPTOR-E, METEOR and AMK.
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F-15SA exists and was what i was getting at, thats from 2013. i mean F-15EX is literally the absolute newest one too.
Then Tranche 3 Typhoons still with Meteors
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thats still a sweep for the EFT lol
could compete wont be great like how the tornado could compete vs F-16Cs
well assuming they arent adding new ARH theyll do just fine, even if they do itll be 120C on 120C
oh no if its meant to be 2013 we should have the weapons of that era ASRAAM and Meteors vs AIM-9X blk2 (worse) and AIM-120D (worse)