You gotta be kidding me, 2 missiles? I know they probably got logistics nearby IRL but this isnt going to cut it in WT
They would have to either make an exception or remove it all together for certain classes of missiles.
Then again if they plan to introduce IIR then it wouldn’t be so much of a stretch to remove MP for certain or all missiles with relevant historical data or of certain generations.
But I think with the exception of SPAA that would be hostile to gameplay.
Tbf eurofighter as well. Gripen is not terrible but definitely non meta. CAS wise HRR GR.7 does fine but meh on most other stuff.
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Eurofighter is incredible its only overshadowed by the slightly below historical flight performance and the Rafale just being giga buffed for no apparent reason. No One could seriously call it bad even if several of its features are underperforming or straight up poor (radar)
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You can say for the rafale that its the last jet France will ever get before gen 5(RNLAF F-35A) which is probably 2 years. But at the same time, Britain, Germany and Italy are not likely going to receive any new jets or upgrades of the eurofighter, so I guess that didnt quite explain it, even counting subtrees.
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I think it’s just flavour of the month to encourage grinding of that specific nation, they already had to be inventive with the variant but I don’t see why it needed rapidfire sequential buffs to virtually everything when the next closest aircraft essentially got rapidfire sequential nerfs to its important characteristics. Fully expect it to be nerfed like Eurofighter was (ironically to the point where it underperformed more than it originally overperformed).
But you’re correct for all of these nations there really isn’t anything to add bar F-35. The UK could perhaps lay a claim to the TF KAAN as it’s a BAE product which Turkey needed permission from the UK to design. Perhaps the UK can eventually get the Tempest proto when that flies in the next few years.
It’s pretty boring. However for Eurofighter nations the positive is this is essentially the worst possible version of the jet we could ever have. Some further buffs apply to armament, general stores capacity if gaijin choose to add the inner rail MRAAM, radar there’s CAESAR which is fixed plate, or the ECRS series which are gimballed, there’s BOL buffs to be added, Britecloud active countermeasures, towed decoys, Brimstone buffs as well as HOPE, HOSBO and Marte, tuning of the FM which is almost universally buffs, better HMD, 2-Way datalink.
French bias or whatever bias isn’t the right take away though I want to stress.
Hope they buff aim9m next update out of toptier probably one of the worst missiles if not the worst
not really, we can all get late versions with ASRAAM, IRIS-T and Meteors im pretty sure all 3 also at least have a prototype fitted with Captor-E so thats a big upgrade
also if brochures are enough to get a certain russian weapon added there is always this
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Agree. Its probably flavor of the meta, as without shifting metas gaijin isnt going to make money since say everyone sticks to like Germany or Russia etc and has no incentive to spend or grind other trees. We saw this with Sweden and arguably Italy, we dont know whos next, perhaps China, we are not sure. On the other hand we didnt see the problem on leclercs addressed, but that is the same on most cases and cant explain a lot.
Also a reminder Aim 9’s range in theory is 18km, realistically 3km max. I would say no more than 10 if not 8km.
That’s for both targets closing towards each other, which is entirely the situation in WT within which you would use SPAA. Also CAMM has a booster pack upon launch to accelerate it and then its essentially an ASRAAM, which there is a British documentary that says ‘effective between 200 metres and 50km’.
If all else fails there is also CAMM-ER. Which is a 40km missile. (Publically)
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Not sure we are ready for that. Also booster pack basically only fills out the gap that the jet meant to carry ASRAAM originally should be moving at Mach 1 and now it starts at absolutely 0 speed. Also I won’t expect an IR senser to do beyond 20km front aspect in especially cause there is too much IR emitting stuff and reflecting stuff since its on the floor.
CAMM is not IR, it is RF. Also it has 2 way DL.
I think a lot of these next gen IR missiles so many are salivating for are not going to be like 25km+ “FNF” Strela-10m-esque missiles that just clear the skies.
My main reason for thinking this is because most defense brochures list ideal, theoretical max ranges, not effective envelope ranges.
I’m sure they’ll be an upgrade to what many countries currently have, but I would not expect a world beater.
That being said, I’m now racing to grind out the AGM weaponry on my Su-30SM so I can enjoy this peak combined warfare for it while it exists, lol. I think A2G/CAS is going to get a lot harder for everyone soon.
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CAMM-ER is just CAMM with more range, if CAMM was to have a range issue that would be the easy solution. (CAMM will not have range issues its known to have performed intercepts all the way out to 25km).
That’s kinda my point, it just equalises its speed with that of an airborne launch and there’s a number of sources suggesting closer to 50km range for ASRAAM which is just CAMM without the VL pack and with an ARH seeker.
ASRAAM uses LOAL plus a very sensitive seeker to make that work. But CAMM is 2-way datalink guided and features an ARH seeker rather than IR.
NVM then. I don’t think we can have 25+km ARH missiles anyway, but maybe later. ASRAAM for now is what I can see added.
Then that wont be added, as the only AA vehicle with ASRAAM is Raven, and that one has ties to…
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ASRAAM is only compatible with Raven not skysabre. Also tbh i’d suggest CAMM is more balanced as it can be notched and although not irl, ingame it can be multipathed. When it comes to IIR missiles, you either have BOL countermeasures or die.
Depends
I mean wasn’t the AJ literally this though?