those type of planes i said, are good for ground battles like f-117
IDK it depends how effective that lower IR signature is, like I can still imagine a 1.5-2km front or side lock from 9L so giving it a chance at 11.3 - 11.7 where it won’t just encounter whole teams of all aspect IR missiles would be better IMO, also I take it the YF-23 doesn’t have an RWR so even when it is radar locked it may not know about it, and I do thing you’re exaggerating the stealth, like as much as it helps a lot, within 5-10km even 12.3 aircraft should be able to get a lock, it’s more about BVR where the aircraft becomes “invisible” so to speak
Its not the first 6th Gen fighter to have taken to the skies though the USAF already did this 4 years ago
Since the focus of 2025 is gap filling maybe we could fill that 11.7 air gap for France
Mirage IIING my beloved
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What US 6th gen fighter flew 4 years ago?
if they had to put a high power, ground based search radar onto low frequency mode to even detect the F-117 to shoot it down, on top of already knowing the flight path, do you really think 70’s or 80’s high frequency M-scan radars on a fighter are going to have a chance to get a hard lock against a far more developed design than the 117?
It’s the NGAD
air force or navy one?
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I believe Air Force
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NGAD flew? Do you have anything more on that, sounds very interesting
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It’s just a quote from the Leader/government minder of the project iirc, but doesn’t specify if it’s the manned or unmanned part of the project. (and the quote itself doesn’t actually say much, it’s alot of guess work)
Sure!
" All I can say is that the NGAD test flights have been amazing – records have been broken" Will Roper,
" Air Force acquisition czar Will Roper revealed today that the service has built a full-scale prototype now in flight testing under the highly classified Next-Generation Air Dominance NGAD program — raising myriad questions about future force structure and potential impacts on the five-year budget plan beginning in 2022."
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What is that supposed to mean?
Doesn’t really matter, we don’t know much about the Chinese 6th gen either do we? All this quote is proving is that the USAF has a 4 year lead on the Chinese 6th gen.
Considering they’ve rolled the NGAD back to requirements fairly recently, one might hazard a guess that 4 year “lead” isn’t as important as people seem to think. Don’t get me wrong, I have my scepticism about the Chinese one too, but until we see photos of the American one I’m going to hazard a guess that the Chinese are currently leading the pack in the 6th gen arms race.
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what if its another MiG-25 situation where it turns out to be a POS in everything but a niche situation.
there is also navy NGAD, which we know far less about, but has apparently porgressed similarly to USAF one however hasnt had the back to requires thing happen
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Alright, but that isn’t really how things work for the rest of the world, (not trying to be offensive here) it’s not because we have videos of the chinese 6th Gen that it’s leading, the USAF has had 4 years to perfect their NGAD, which means they have way more data than the chinese, they also have more experience with stealth aircrafts and ground breaking aviation tech in general.
In any case the USAF is ahead, for now, but if the USA doesn’t want to speed up things a little this might change soon.
once Congress sees that video, all of a sudden AIM-260 funding will double, F-35 funding will increase by 50%, and NGAD budget will be tripled lol
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