Su-30SM isn’t going to China unless it’s as the Su-30MKM (which people who don’t want anything ASEAN to go to China will be really butt-hurt about), so maybe Su-30MK2? I don’t know Chinese flankers well enough to know if it can work with the PL-12’s though. It seems the PL-12 is a J-10, J-11B, JF-17 (and beyond) missile.
J-11B, F-2, and Su-30SM should come in their own patch together. Su-30MKK and Su-30M/M2 would be better paired separately, as neither have canards or TVC, nor radar beyond the N001VEP.
I’m using MKK and MK2 interchangeably as I don’t know the difference between the two or how advanced the MK2 is, but it would make sense for the Chinese SU-30 to come at the same time as the Russian one, though like I said I would hope it’s part of the attacker line for China, so I’m hoping for J-11B in March and then a SU-30MKK/MK2 with the SU-30SM and F/A-18C in June for a navy fighter focused patch.
Just to clarify I’m not expecting the Chinese SU-30 to be a true top tier 14.0/14.3 aircraft necessarily, I just think it makes sense to come in the same patch to bolster China’s CAS
Absolutely acknowledging the butt hurt,
do you know, that Bangladesh is IRL lobbying for Rafale acquisition? If the nation gets it, then China is cleared to get it as well, in WT terms? … now tell me … do you think China needs ASEAN or can be satisfied with its current pseudo/official-subtrees?
It’s enough, I’d say.
I don’t think the USA/Russia/China, in principle, needs backup, especially in aviation. At most, tank cars, some kind of Korea, and I think it would be better to create a branch of the two Koreas. The branch would be super cool and interesting.
Personally, I think China should get Pakistan as a subtree but nothing more than that, the odd Bangladeshi premium/event vehicle would be fine but nothing excessive like a Rafale
So Su-30M/M2 and Su-30MKK/MK2 should come out in the same patch. MK2 might have better radar, some sort of Zhuk derivative (Sokol), don’t know anything about it.
Su-30SM is multirole as well, but it would add more air to air capabilities for the USSR/Ru line. J-11B would be the plane to fill in here for a Chinese Flanker imo. So Su-30SM and J-11B should come in the same patch as well as the F-2. If you want a Naval Chinese Flanker that would come before the J-15, maybe the J-11BH or BSH? I don’t know how popular these variants are in China, but the USSR/Ru just got the Su-33, of which there’s roughly only 50 airframes, so I say why the heck not. Otherwise just send-it on the J-15.
in subtree, you need to know reasonableness. To add only in cases where there is no way to add anything else, or when there is no way to add something that can close the need for something (Thailand CAS for Japan). No more than that. The self-sufficiency of most countries is more than enough
and that’s it … its enough
Pak + BD + Myanmar + SL ~ what more can you ask?
Maybe the few African Nations sprinkled in, which has acquired Chinese stuffs.
ASEAN is then Jp worthy.
And I think it’s high time to eradicate the practice of soup from countries where the United States, Russia, Germany and China are playing for the same side, both in aviation and in ground technology. You lose all sense of such games when you play against your own plane.
I was actually thinking the SU-30MKK/MK2 would come with the SU-30SM for Russia in June, just that by then the J-11B would already have been added in March, so by the time the SU-30 comes out China won’t need a new top tier fighter but could still do with some improvement in their CAS as the J-11 doesn’t have guided A2G weapons.
gonna do a contorversial one here,
Gaijin has been wanting to do Ru sub tree for quite some time now. Moderna and co. fans will know where I am at.
I support Iran for Ru. Now, I am cool with DPRK for Ru as well (given the current political climate), if not for China i.e.
Just as a heads up here are the packs that were on sale on playstation this XMAS:
P-51D, A-10, F-5C, F-20A, Clickbait;
Su-25K, MiG-23ML, IS-6, T-80UE, Marat;
LAZUR, WTD Tornado, KT SLA16, TURMIII, Leopard 2A4M CAN;
Bison, CR1DS;
T16FPS, IJN Yamashiro;
J-7D, ZTZ96AP;
MF1-200, Somua SM;
AMX A-1A;
VIDAR, CV90105;
Spit LFIX, kfir canard, M51W
These would not neccesarily mean whats going on sale for PC tomorrow, but may correlate significantly.
Honestly Korea should get its own tree as there is more than enough there for a united Korea, Iran then should go to Russia whenever there’s time for it