Israel nearly adopted the Chieftain.
The chieftain was heavily influenced & designed with the help from Israeli combat experience and was tested heavily by Israel for adoption (even rumors of them being used at the Egyptian border circa 1967).
Its UK’s change in Gov and mid-east connection/ties that prohibited the deal at the last moment, recalled the trial tanks and halted the delivery of the MK.4 tanks due to be sent out.
And hence Merkava project began
So …
anyways, atleast the Chieftain Mk.2 should be an Israeli premium.
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Nah, there was a throwaway account (Documentsplease) that posted pics today.
They didn’t even try and hide it either as they still had the restricted markings on them.
British Engine
Seriously?
British Engine, and fuselage, and tail, and ant, and dec.
Are you high?
There’s a reason why the Wessex is more well known.
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Tigris and tiger 2, the F-5 not the tanks lol
The point is the British claim to merkava is total BS
Also McDonnell Douglas AV-8B flew before bae harrier 2, bae was a subcontractor with 40% workload for the US av8b harrier 2, and it was designed by McDonnell Douglas
I think can be f-18, j-15, and naval rafale. Naval update. (I want j-15, J-10B, J-11B)
M8 you do realise the whole Harrier airframe was made by us Brits
" The Hawker P.1127 and the Hawker Siddeley Kestrel FGA.1 are the British experimental and development aircraft that led to the Hawker Siddeley Harrier, the first vertical and/or short take-off and landing (V/STOL) jet fighter-bomber."
Who the hell is Claiming Merkava for the UK?
M8 do you realize the av8b was a radical improvement on the original harrier, they are 2 different planes
And yet you claim the Grant and Firefly. Checkmate.
“improvement” one word immediately destroyed your argument
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I was making examples of why it’s bad reasoning, I don’t actually think the UK’s fireflies should go to US
It’s a new airframe, they changed almost everything, it’s like saying a mk1 spitfire is the same plane as a mk24
Harrier 2 was also a british design, which the yanks adopted. Not a domestic American design at all
AV-8B first fight 1981, BAE harrier 2 first flight 1985
It’s the same air frame hence it still called the spitfire which the said Harrier is still is, guess what still a harrier
The F-4 F ICE is more American than the AV-8B is british
Damn those British mains claiming every vehicle in game. If only Their empire wasn’t the largest the likes of which the world had never seen the likes of which.
" The AV-8B Harrier II was developed by McDonnell Douglas (later merged into Boeing) in collaboration with the British Aerospace (BAe) company.
The aircraft is an evolution of the earlier Hawker Siddeley Harrier, a British design. While the original Harrier was developed solely by Hawker Siddeley (which became part of BAe), the AV-8B was a joint effort to improve upon that design, incorporating significant upgrades:
- McDonnell Douglas handled the redesign and production in the United States.
- British Aerospace (BAe) contributed key elements of the design, leveraging their expertise from the original Harrier project.
The AV-8B Harrier II was primarily manufactured for the United States Marine Corps (USMC) and various allied nations."
Oopie looks like someone forgot a key detail
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