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4170

we don’t have a Hornet FM in game, that is correct but we do have info on the Hornet’s behaviour and engine power

the A has a Thrust to Weight worse than the F4E when empty and the F-18C has a Max Sustained AOA of 9° at ~ Mach 0.9 with a Max Instant AOA of 18° at ~ Mach 0.6

(I dont have definitie numbers on the F-18A manouverability, only on C and E)

Graph on F/A-18C/E AOA

Fa-18c2

Addition: I do want to see Hornets in this game too, Especially the Baseline A variant, but they will not even remotely be meta defining or even top tier

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4171

I agree, but what I am trying to get across is that Gaijin’s implementation of the aircraft matters more than the data we have available. We simply do not know if they will gimp the F/A-18A or make it comparable to the F-16A (which is overperforming by a lot).

Looking at the kit, and knowing the Hornet is a pretty solid airframe, I doubt it will be 12.3. Keep in mind that the F-14A Early is 12.7 and it still does not have its AIM-9Ls (granted that’s because it has Phoenixes, but those aren’t that amazing anyways imo). The F/A-18A is definitely more in line with the F-16A and F-14A Early than the F-4EJ Kai in my opinion. As a result, I expect it to be 12.7, not 12.3.

4172

thr F-14A has ARH missiles

that’s the only reason for it’s BR

I’d compare it more to the F4S/J than the F-14A tho thus I’d put it at a lower BR

4173

ohno I woke mytho up

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4174

Issue with that graph in comparison with the C and the E is the C is at a greater disadvantage

4175

If the Python 4 is added soon, I wouldn’t be surprised, if an Aussie one is added, if it gets them.

4176

how likely do you think Py4 is?

4177

It’s the next logical step for Israeli aircraft, so I would be very surprised if we don’t see it at most by the third update of this year, though I’m more expecting it within the first two.

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4178

A missile with python 4 kind of G pull is highly unlikely

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4179

It was only tested during the missile trials i find it unlikely

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4180

That means nothing. There are multiple aircraft in game that have weaponry they were only tested with, and many more with weaponry they never used.

4181

My point is it is highly unlikely that it would come with Python 4 when it could get ASRAAM which is more historically accurate

Combined with that Python 4 will mostly likely come with other better missiles

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4182

I’m hoping for 9M and 7M at 12.7/13.0 personally, that Gulf War era Hornet

4183

It’s also the next logical step for missiles in game, I believe it’s 60g which is only 10 over our current best, the real issue is the seeker which is much better than current IR missiles however it is already effectively modelled in game on the stinger which from what I hear is far from OP so 2-3 updates might not be such a terrible guess, personally I think December for next generation IR though

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4184

It’s actually similar to the MICA in pull, since the P4 doesn’t have TVC and the MICA does.

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4185

I’m not convinced that the Stingers seeker is correctly modelled, but it’s hard to tell when the missiles have a tendency to straight up miss

4186

It’s not. Even a single flare sometimes throws it off.

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4187

I just doubt that 9M would push it to 12.7

4188

Worse jets are at 12.7 without AIM-9Ms. It would most certainly not be 12.3 with them.

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4189

Yes but IRL the P4 seeker is very similar to the stinger so whatever the stinger is in game is what we should expect from the P4, I also believe that the better IRCCM missiles will always be nerfed from real life performance to keep the game playable