Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion

I said there’s an argument for it, not that it should be the deciding factor.

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Still, moaning about C&P and who got what sub is just white noise.

No, you are mate. It’s perfectly fine where it’s at, and extremely competitive at its BR.

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i see a US flag :P

cant make out the words but seems to be the engine no? aka the most important part of the jet

Either that or the blast’s flaps but anyone Israel has more than you lol

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it is a general electric F404 engine. and without it it wouldnt even make it out of the hangar. it is completely dependent on the engine for everything. as such, should go to US :P

funny enough it has the same radar as the event kfir

looking at its armaments now, it could come next major

Can we be expecting an addition of MAWS and LWR to kfir blk 60 since it was stated in the devblog but its missing from its current model?

it has 4 of the worst toptier fox3s and no irccm Fox2s, viggen atleast has more CMs and atleast decent fox3s.

12,7 would not be undertiered, not in the slightest

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How is it worse than the Aim-120 carrying harriers? How is it 0.3 better than a Mig-21bison, or equivalent to a Mig-29? Should it really be facing a Mig-23MLA or Tornado IDS?

It has good flight performance, and 4 alright missiles, don’t move it down because of compression, because that just makes it worse.

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It can carry 4 Fox 3 missiles and combined with it’s good 13.0 flight performance and pretty much the best radar in the game that makes it a very good 13.0 aircraft.

It’s very comparable to the J-8F, it sacrifices 2 missiles overall to get 2 extra Fox 3 missiles, and a much better radar

It’s closest comparison at 12.7 would be the Yak-141, which has a worse FM, worse radar, and worse missiles

There is also the fact that the only Fox 3 below 13.0 is the AIM-54 and its equivalents and they are deservedly that low, as much as the Derby is one of the worse medium range Fox 3s it is still a world better than those missiles

There is no world where this is a 12.7 vehicle, there is however a world in which it gets moved up to 13.3 as it would likely fare pretty well against those aircraft, though I wouldn’t personally advocate for it

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So you think it is on par with an F-16A that can exclusively carry AIM-9Ls?

Because it is better than the FA2 which is also at 13.0.

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Those should have been either 12.3 or with dutch one 12.7, no where near 12.7 deserved.
Still the thing is much better than even the F16 with AIM7 considering it isn’t that good of a SARH, and very comparable to 13.0s like J8F, very much an equivalent.

12.3 is crazy for F16A. 12.7 is fine for them, the issue is that most of the 13.0’s should be 13.3.
Most of the phantoms are at 12.0 with the same aim7f or worse (depending on the nation), worse radar, worse IR missiles, worse RWR. Hell stuff like the F1C with its 4 way RWR is fighting shit like F14’s.

We dont need compression here, if anything the F16A’s should be 13.0 and the current 13.0 should be 13.3-13.7.

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Amen to that

12.7 is fine but that’s more opinion.

The C.10 is stronger than a good amount of 13.0s and on par with a few others, it more than belongs there.

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I mean the AIM9L only F16s. They have no business being higher than things like Mirage CS5

But when they had to put in the Fakour 90 and break the target of all the planes, I never saw them taking precautions

Mirage 2000 C S4/5 have one major downside and that’s their missike count

2IR + 2 Radar just aint enough for the BR

we could easily have another full increase of one or two steps like we had when ARH was first introduced

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But 6 AIM9L wouldn’t help either especially not for a BR higher, I personally would trade 6 9Ls for 2 530s and 2 Magic 2s. (mostly thinking magic 2s) and 530s can hit some targets not aware despite its chaff prone nature. Also I just hate the F16 FM for no reason, kinda over expected it to be good.