I’d like to pull AiM-9B age up again here, we got the Sea Hawk MK.100 at 8.0 as the lowest missile plane in the game as a prem
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Pinnacle of German suffering.
Yeah, and AIM-9Bs are dodged by every jet in the game.
One of the big things with the Tigershark and adding it to WT is that Gaijin is willing to add proposed loadouts/weapons, as long as there were documents stating “this aircraft was intended to be able to use this loadout or these weapons”. This gets kind of tricky with the F-20,
BECAUSE there were a number of different loadout/armament charts for it, all through it’s life (whether it be brochure, flight manual, book, etc), with each one serving as sort of a “step” in the F-20’s evolution.
Keep in mind: the original plan for the Tigershark (F-5G-1 at this stage) was just an engine-change only, and add BVR capability to an F-5E. That failed, so Northrop had to make it ready for the FX program. That failed, so Northrop had to make it work for export users such as South Korea and the US (as an Air Defense platform), thus meaning it had to evolve again (larger wing, longer range radar, more powerful engine, greater internal fuel capacity, etc).
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Maybe so, but since it’s a free missile at the lowest BR and an identical plane without those missiles is the same BR, it’s somewhat evil.
it’s an analogue to how the then new and previously unthinkable weapon was put on a low BR jet immediately and I think it’ll be similar with the F-20
That is irrelevant.
Back when the Sea Hawk was first added, I imagine 9Bs and 9Es were still a somewhat meta weapon
No… F-20 is not an A-10/Hawk.
A-10 is the comparison to that Hawk, not the F-20 or any other supersonic.
Well since the Yak-141 was added in an essentially “ideal” configuration (barring lack of R-73/R-77) then it’s possible it may be implemented in a similar way.
Although again, Object 292 was added “as is” and even without the proper engine the real one currently in Kubinka has.
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They’re all capable of being surface-launched. The initial Brimstones supplied to Ukraine for ground-launch were Brim 1s from old stocks with MMW-only seekers which you can see here
Photos of a dud one that landed in Russian-held territory showed the motor was 2001 production, and the warheads from 2004 production
AFAIK they’ve received dual-mode versions in follow-on deliveries
Ed:- sorry I missed Flame2512 said the same
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Well, there’s a problem with that: Gaijin only wants to use primary sources, thus official blueprints and whatnot (or two secondary sources). The 4th prototype was under construction, but the only in-depth info available on it is from a single book (Air Force Legends #228: Northrop F-20 Tigershark, by Paul Metz), which is a secondary source. As far as I’m aware, there is no official info on the extended range APG-67 either.
Gaijin would have to contact Northrop Grumman themselves and essentially gain access to their archives to get the right info, which I have a very high suspicion will not happen (foreign company moment)
oh yes they were, they felt a lot better then compared to Now
that early every step in missile technology felt like they got undefeatable
9B were a sort of sneaky kill at a point where everyone was just furballing like it’s 7.0 all over again
9E were the first missiles you’d actually have to fear in a 1V1
when 9J came on the F4E and R-60 on the MiG it was as if top tier was ruined, remember there was a Hard barrier between 10.0 and 9.7 for a while to contain those OP jets
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Man, talk about a throwback
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that was definitely one of those times
remember how we thought the game would die now and become unplayable all those years ago?
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I also suppose it wouldn’t really make much sense to contact a manufacturer about some decades old prototype and expect them to avoid inflating the performance. It’d basically be free marketing for them and nobody could double-check or cross-analyse them.
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not to mention that no arms company would allow a random foreign games company with a former HQ in Moscow into their archives
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Perhaps we sometimes forget, but War Thunder is both a game with a large playercount and a reputation
I think you mean Budapest.
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Actually, I think I was somehow more optimistic back then lmao
I remember speculating with folks in custom battles, namely talking about the next plane we wanted to see. I’d always say “I’m hoping we get the F-8E Crusader”, or “I can’t wait for when the F-5E Tiger II gets added” back then, since both were planes wanted dearly. There was another, third plane that I’d mention fairly often, which I’m quite sure you know what it is :)
This was back in like 2019-2022 lol
Also back in this time, I talked a lot about wanting to see the Kfir added. It didn’t matter how, just as long as it was added.
(I was obsessed with the anime Area 88 back then, and the Crusader, Tiger II, Tigershark, and Kfir were like the main 4 planes used by the main character )
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So its my fault gaijin mislead people again? Makes sense.