Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

there are flares with higher temperature sure but that cant be described as a type

no

explain then

for example BOL doesn’t fire flares but a packet that produce a cloud of heat something on those lines

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but it doesnt matter when they add them, you wont outrun it, you wont outmaneuver it, same flares and you probably wont outenergy them unless they give as A12 but to what use rlly

do you think it matters either you’re in an f35 or f15 while being tracked by a Fox 3? considering that stealth wont be added as is irl

IRL, CMs are specifically designed to meet a threat (they don’t just burn hotter). It’s far more complex than what you think.

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so u think that could be introduced in game

Yeah, we are also starting to get into the territory of these specifics are still classified.

Except there do be different flare types. Like ones designed to blind an IIR seeker to give the plane a short opportunity to escape the seekers lock.

There is also just a continuous development race of getting a flare mix that burns at the same intensity, and same IR band as an engine.

Flares arent a static development, its a race to try to counter the seekers of a given era.

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don’t know if gajin would right now they are treated as small flares instead of what they should be

yeah but i doubt those are gonna be added so my question remains in place…

Would it matter if you would be tracked by a Fox 3, piloting an F15 or an F35? Probably not! (in-game)

If one wants multi element seekers and IIR seekers to be modeled and countered correctly, we need propper IR countermeasure modeling

well yes

I think you have some misconceptions on how flares and stealth work. Or you are oversimplifying to much. Hooter flares doesn’t directly translate to better countermeasures. The goal of a flare is to hide the thermal signature of the engine/plane under a much brighter -but not necessarily much hotter- thermal source.
F35 and other fighter stealth would only work up until modern IRST and radar lock them at probably a bit more than 100km, to which a fox 3 can be guided with datalink, and would probably be able to locate a stealth fighter with its onboard radar when going pitbull. Stealth allows for the jet to be located (and tracked) at much closer distances and give it the option to fire first. It’s not an invisibility spell to all incoming threats

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so they could just add everything now and it wont matter, its gonna be the same massacre

By a Fox-3? Yeah id say the F-35 has a better chance avoiding lock and propper guidance against a Fox-3 ARH missile.

Edit: and the F-35 doesn’t exist in game so that is an automatic win

Was hat heute gehappenened in der game?

Um actually it is an American premium, but yes its hidden from sale unless its 4th Jul

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Why? At that point it might as well be Ace Combat. War Thunder at least tries to have a semblance of realism.