Go read this amazing suggestion, there is no possibility to add a plain 2A6 and say it’s a 2HEL
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Wait to get added in the Israeli TT
the market is collapsing and everything is turning dirtcheap
and that was on the first day alone. i would recommend waiting abit.
I understand that, and it would have been enough to add a Singapore f15, just like they did with the Hunter.
I never said Greece has nothing fun or interesting to offer. I’m not a native English speaker, apologies if that was the interpretation.
I did say that Gaijin won’t add anything interesting or fun by selecting Greece, if I remember correctly.
Don’t misunderstand me, my problem isn’t with Greece (the nation and its armed forces). My problem is with Gaijin’s choice, selecting Greece as the Israeli subtree. That can only mean one thing: more copy pasting in 10.3/10.7, like what we’ve already seen with many other nations. It’s insulting, seriously.
Well its 169 coins so… seems to be rising in price
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one of the few vehicles not affected yet surprisingly, yet at least.
unlike the obj248…
and this is on the first day alone, most will drop more.
is the turkish m60 even of the sl crate?
Nope just an F-15E with better radar and engines, at best a 14.3
I understand I have done the same
That would happen no matter what nation was chosen,
You focus to much to the leopards, out of the 6 leopards Greece can offer only 1 is plain copy paste, and again even if it wasn’t Greece and it was Chile or Singapore it would be again a Leopard copy paste at 10.7.
For some reason you believe that out of Greece only C&P can come out and you still haven’t told me what nation would be a better choice that Greece/Cyprus
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The AMBT has been in every sl crate, and Every. Skin /esport crate so prob yes
There are other paths and solutions, although all of them require effort.
I think we’ve given up and become complacent. Half of the nations have an OSA in 10.3 and there are about 7 or 8 2A4 leopards in at least 5 different nations. All of this within the same BR range. What’s the fun in that?
Yea the best MBT with exports in 22 countries, no matter what country Isreal would get as a subtree it would get one, Singapore? Yes they have Leopards, Chile? Yes again they also have Leopards.
Leopards are inevitable.
I mean it’s an AA what’s wrong with that? 4 nations have it 3 besides USSR and it’s not like they add it and never added domestic stuff, you can choose Roland or Stormer if you want over the OSA in UK and Germany and in Italy there is no other choice
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There are already M113 (Israeli) and AUBL with the same cannon sitting at 7.7 and 8.0 (+ VCC-80/60 with autoloader at 9.3), I don’t think this cannon could go much lower in BR and rank (IV-V).
I mean
If we’re being honest it’s more like Strv 122 INT, besides it’s Danish so it’s more cool than the 122
though I'd prefer our Cage armor
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I honestly can’t understand all of that complaints about export, especially when it comes to smaller nations, which you barelly even see in battles.
SB issues is a general problem of this mode, not TTs.
The only real problem exists for players who grind more than one nation and it’s about the need to grind exact the same thing each time again and again, but this can be made much lower issue if RP discounts for each next identical vehicle researched were added.
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Well, you could have added any other country: Brazil or Turkey, for example. If Gaijin had chosen Brazil, I would know he didn’t choose it with the intention of copying and pasting.
I’m sure you’re wondering, why Brazil? I wonder, why Greece? I would have chosen South Korea.
But Chile, Singapore, or Israeli export vehicles would have been better options than Greece. Even India. You can always add a lone Greek Rafale to fill very specific gaps.
Israel doesn’t just need an aircraft in the meta someday. Israel has needed light vehicles across all its lines for years. I don’t think Gaijin is going to give Israel that by choosing Greece.
It’s almost like MBTs are primary service vehicles. And it’s a poor representation of a nation’s military to only add dead-end prototypes, considering how War Thunder has always been Nation > Industry and has only gotten stronger with this point after 2021 and the sub-tree system.
Sadly, it’s gotten costly to make vehicles even more from scratch. Not to mention how nations (namely those in a leader position of an alliance) often push down and destroy the industries of allies, all so they’d buy their vehicles.
Sadly, it’s what happened in real life, and it affects the game, but that’s the outcome of being realistic.
Turkey under Isreal? (Big surprise they also have Leopard 2A4
Also Leopards and nothing top tier in ground and air
Absolutely not? United Korea is a far better choice
How? Greece can offer the same ans better stuff
Oo Boy I have a suprise for you (Greece/ Cyprus have a load of light tanks to chose)
It’s needs it, but also needs more lines as of now it has only 3 and Greece can easily give a full line. And also Greece/ Cyprus have some very interesting Helicopters
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Israel has enough vehicles to stand on its own. I do agree there’s much more stuff to add on lowtier ground than lowtier air, but it’s still enough to be independent. I don’t have anything against Greece or Greek vehicles, but I believe they should not be a subtree of Israel, as those two nations are not nearly as close to each other as other subtrees are to their parent trees.
Israel has no real nation that could be considered a “closest ally” in the same way (besides the US), and imo a cool subtree idea could be a subtree consisting of vehicles developed mostly by Israeli military industry companies (not just IMI but all of them; Jesus, they picked such a generic name). This way, Israel could draw vehicles from multiple countries, and it’d still be mostly believable and remain unique in implementation. There’s a whole bunch of prototypes and in-service vehicles that could fall under that subtree idea.
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Then we shouldn’t have national tech trees. They should redesign their tech trees and stop selling the same tank in 8 different tech trees (yes, coming soon to the UK). It’s a scam; they’re playing on the players’ need to create their own national team lineups. You should know that.
At this point, I can’t even agree with it being a problem. Just because everyone that has, has either gone around demanding “C&P” in the same update or moved what counts as it, to inculde vehclies form other families just because in the long run they play the same.
Sim has sadly needed heavy rework for years.
That would be nice; overall, there is a need for a rework of RP costs, else we have a number problem I can’t think of the name of right now.
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